Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.
A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.
Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.
In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)
Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.
Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.
What fairy tale do you think the letter supports? it does not support the Dreams of My Father fairytale, which has Stanley Ann in Hawaii from 1961-1963.
And PS, while you’re here posting, could you please substantiate your fairytale that there was a Time magazine interview with Barry when he was at Harvard? thanks.
here's a snip, I will not post the entire page for obvious reasons. The moment I put it up, the article will dispappear.
It would be nice to have more context -- like the rest of the photo, the rest of the yearbook page, the captions, etc.
Wouldn't it just! I think I understand why you might say that. It bothers you that you don't know the origin of that image. You don't. But I do.
Well Plumms the original Time article together with the cover was posted here a long time ago. So I guess if you had been paying attention to the issue at the time, you too would have a copy.
Fred has given us a copy of a reprint; Trowbridge has a copy of the original article on her site; it is in sufficient general circulation that you shouldn't have much trouble finding it or the wire distribution of the story.
The original interview was done while he was at Harvard purportedly going to law school.
And for the reason it is a hot topic here, it is an obvious scrub target. Fred doesn't like posting original record here because the Opposing Forces read the material and go out and scrub the record.
The version he told the interviewer is that the prevailing view of when he went to Indonesia was not well understood--that in fact he had gone there when he was two. That fits with a birth in the 60-61 period; the fact record of a brief presence in Hawaii in the first couple of months of 63; and his complete absence from the record anywhere thereafter (with one exception we think not relevant here).
Together with the record that at that point (Spring quarter, 1963), Stanley starts school at the U of Hawaii and goes there until she goes to Indonesia in 1966--Barry completely absent from the record anywhere in the interim.
That letter from Hawaii shows the enrollment of a student for Fall 1960. That’s about the same period during which we are shown/told there was a listing for Ann S Obama at the ‘birth announcement’ Hawaii address...
The same Ann Obama photographed with the kenyan son-of-a-goat-herder at the Nachmannofs? Probably.
She’s shown in the Polk as a student. Enrolled for Fall 1960? Probably. And HER record is what commences that that letter.
Because that record is there at the University of Hawaii, and doesn’t everyone know the little high school girl who graduated from Mercer Island named Stanley Ann Dunham, married the Kenyan and her name just had to be Ann S Obama.
Problem: IT WASN’T THE SAME WOMAN. Ann S Obama left Hawaii and shows up in Seattle on Capital Hill and Stanley Ann Dunham is nowhere in sight.
We don’t see her until she’s pictured holding zero on the fence at the zoo, and he’s between two and three years old.
“Class of 1960” does indeed mean the class that would eventually graduate in 1960. A picture taken in 1950 of Miss Smith’s 2nd grade class could be titled “Class of 1960” and be correct.
However, if a picture is titled something like “1960 Grade 9” then that would mean the kids who were in 9th grade in 1960.
No, it isn't impossible. Don't they have class reunions? Their 50th class reunion would have been two years ago and I'm sure more than a few brought along their pictures. Someone, a class officer perhaps, would probably have copies of pictures as they were back in the day and today. They many have sent out a then/now newsletter.
Here, at least once a month, there's an old school picture published in the town's newspaper asking for help in ID-ing classmates. You'd be surprised at how the older folks look forward to those. Best thing to do would be to ask an old timer of Mercer Island. There's probably more than one nursing home resident willing to talk.
However, if a picture is titled something like 1960 Grade 9 then that would mean the kids who were in 9th grade in 1960.
Actually, Seattle Public Schools funded every class under its jurisdiction to have a class photo in the spring between May 21 and Jun 6 every year. So a fifth grade class of 1952 at XYZ elementary would be the group that took 5th grade at XYZ elementary in the 51-52 school year.
Mercer Island was part of the Seattle Public School district until sometime in about the time frame we are talking about (1960) at which point Mercer Island became a separate district.
Bellevue was always a separate district in this period. Kids went to Mercer Island from feeder schools on the Island (there was only one in the early going); from feeder schools on the West side of Lake Washington in the Seward Park area North through Washington Park; and from feeder schools on the East side of the Lake in what was originally the Bellevue district--a kid who lived in the Bellevue district was not supposed to go to Mercer Island but that was enforced only against some running backs.
The Island School became the in thing--in part because of the extreme Liberal teachers at the school.
thanks, seems there are still freepers who confuse the word GRADE with CLASS OF. If Mercer opened to GRADE eight students in 1956 those students would have been there for GRADES nine, ten, eleven and twelve, to graduate CLASS OF 1960.
NOW CHECK OUT THE ‘TEACHERS’ VIDEO:
http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php
In the first one it clearly states she spent one year in Seattle and then TWO YEARS at the high school. That might have taken her to 1958.
Try it, I’m in Australia.
Probably not. One thing that has happened is that the Mercer kids get in to good schools--they get good grades which are believed by the Eastern Schools; they get taught the SAT; so they are a magnet district--in turn real estate on the island performs better because anyone with kids they want to send to a public school starts with Mercer at the top of their list--the kids get through school and through High School and on to college; the parents sell their house and buy a condo downtown.
If it can be said that there is a community on the island, it revolves around the school; and when your kids are out of the school you are out of the community.
I would guess that of the players here, only Susan Blake is still on the island (or was a couple of years ago when she was a member of the town council).
The in groups in various classes still have relationships but they don't live on the island any more and the focus is on the group of people rather than where they live.
And the class of 1960 graduated fifty-two years ago; Vietnam intervened; many members of the class are dead. I would guess that less than half the class survives to this point although that is just a guess.
People who are 70-72 years old tend not to be as aggressive or have as strong memory convictions as they had twenty or thirty years ago.
And we are talking about Stanley who didn't arrive at the Mercer Island school until her sophomore or Junior year in high school; and may have only been there for a year or so. She was not a prominent member of the class. Her father was a furniture salesman and in the stratified social structure on the island, she did not rate with the prominent class members.
sorry, forgot to ping you to #211, looks like if she was there at all it was only for two years:
NOW CHECK OUT THE TEACHERS VIDEO:
http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php
In the first one it clearly states she spent one year in Seattle and then TWO YEARS at the high school. That might have taken her to 1958.
Yes, I remember this from a couple years ago.
She couldn't have spent two years at the high school before 1958--the school didn't open until 1957 and it admitted only the class of 1959 as Juniors. I believe the class of 1960 was not admitted or if they were, it was only some of the students.
I suppose you might think that the class of 60 was also admitted in 57 as sophomores which supports your two years to the end of her Junior year. That's possible.
See we are kind of getting carried away here doing exactly what the Opp Forces are trying to get us to do.
I don't think she made the Au Pair deal with zero's parents until the spring of 61; but even if we are wrong on the birth date and it is in fact the summer of 60, she still has plenty of time to have graduated from Mercer Island to do it.
The true bottom line on Mercer Island is that there is no credible proof that she graduated in 1960 under circumstances where the record is under the control of the Liberal forces that support Zero's interest--if she was really there, they could show you the record that proves it and they don't. End of story.
The two year record plus one year in Seattle would fit her having done her sophomore year at Franklin 57-58; and her junior and senior years at Mercer island in 58-59 as a junior and 59-60 as a senior.
It would also fit a scenario in which she did her Freshman year at Eckstein or Franklin; in fact was in the first group of students at Mercer Island as a sophomore; did the junior year at Mercer Island; and then graduated from a High School in Chicago in 1960 where she had been working as an Au Pair at the time the movie was released exactly as Zero has her saying.
Maybe 10th grade at Seattle and 11th - 12th at Mercer Island. But that’s goofy, too.
Forget what I might think, go by the video. I’m an Australian, I keep telling you, I have no idea what a frikken sophomore is.
To the best of my knowledge that high school commenced taking students in 1956.
And I’m certainly not responsible for that video content.
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