Just sayin'
Posted on 05/18/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett is threatening to keep President Obama’s name off the state’s ballot in November unless he receives confirmation from Hawaii that it has a valid birth certificate on file for him.
Bennett, who spoke to Arizona radio host Mike Broomhead Thursday, said he requested the confirmation eight weeks ago and has not gotten it. Hawaii, he said, does not have to supply a certified copy of the birth certificate, merely send him an email confirming that it has one.
Asked by Broomhead if he would remove Obama’s name from the ballot if Hawaii fails to comply, Bennett said: “That’s possible. Or the other option would be that I would ask all the candidates, including the president, to submit a certified copy of their birth certificate.”
Despite overwhelming evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, the issue of his birth continues to dog him. Thursday, Breitbart Big Government reported on a promotional booklet by Obama’s own literary agency listing him as having been born in Kenya.
Bennett said Hawaii law permits government officials to request verification of possession of a birth certificate in lieu of a certified copy.
“They could say yes tomorrow and the whole thing goes away,” Bennett said. “If they can’t say yes to that simple question, than it makees we wonder if we have to take it to another level. One way or another, we have to have some simple verification that people are qualified for the office if they’re going to be on the ballot here in Arizona.”
(Excerpt) Read more at whitehousedossier.com ...
You mnean the 57 American USA states or the 57 Islamic League states? (and which did BHO mean when he said it?)
But a SMART conservative who has read the law can say that Obama is not a Brit if his mother was not legally married to Sr...as in a BIGAMOUS marriage that is void ab initio. It is VOID not voidable.
thank you....I do the best I can without proper trainin or pay
lolol
to some, the glass is 1/2 full...others it’s 1/2 empty.....YOU ?....it’s sour
if you were in charge, there still would be no airplane
Andrew Breitbart left us knowing more than he had time to disclose to us.
What did he know that we need to re-discover, document and publish?
Why are ALL of Obama’s important early documents forged?
Where was Obama during his “Lost Years?”
Why are there so few known Obama childhood friends?
How many of Obama’s childhood buddies are still alive?
Was Obama a FOREIGN student at Occidental, Columbia or Harvard?
Who wrote the checks for Obama’s education?
Where these question that Andrew Beitbart knew some of the answers to?
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To tie the above with some speculative food for thought, please indulge me, (but DO ponder the speculations), as I re-post one of my recently updated comments as follows:
A dictator, such as Obama, only has the power that the people give him.
Currently, at least 40 % of polled American voters are gladly willing to give Obama the necessary power to continue his arrogant dictatorship.
About 47 % of American voters pay NO Personal Federal Income Taxes. These voters are the “fair share” voter base for Dictator Obama. We, in the 53 %, then are paying this 47 % to vote for Obama by virtue of us paying taxes for ourselves AND them.
In this manner we are supporting the voters who vote for Obama, and they will vote to do so again in November.
Dictator Obama has designed Obama”care” to become active only AFTER he is to be re-elected, thus enabling THE NINE SUPREMES to delay ruling on the Constitutionality of the dictate of the individual mandate until Obama is once again the Illegal Foreign White House Occupier, (IFWHO).
The purpose of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack is simple: 1.) Regulate; 2.) Control; and 3.) Destroy. By his own count he has already achieved 60 % of his goals, according to the note he says he carries in his pocket.
Obama’s obvious arrogant and deep hatred of America could have only come from what he was taught in his childhood.
Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obama’s past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.
The lack of credible documents that has NOT been forged requires a long-term, highly skilled and well-funded support group.
Who the key members of Obama’s probable support group and probable sleeper cell were and are is well known to the Interpol, CIA and the FBI.
Will “Citizen Journalists” such as Breitbart Editor Joel Pollack be able to out-spy the latter two US tax-funded spy entities?
BTW, forget about the LAM, (Liberal Agenda Media), as they are saving their notes to write their tell-all Obama books after Obama has SAFELY retired back home in Kenya.
BTW, BTW, to all the doubters of the above speculations: what does your gut tell you?
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The questions we ask
Are simple to say,
One wonders why they
Were not asked,
Back in the Day?
Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Dictator, (in his own mind), Obama grows louder:
regulate —— control —— destroy —— Regulate —— control —— destroy —— REgulate —— control —— destroy —— REGulate —— control —— destroy —— REGU
"Currently, at least 40 % of polled American voters are gladly willing to give Obama the necessary power to continue his arrogant dictatorship."
Sadly, your estimate is way low. There are a gaggle of folks not calculated in that number, and we're reading their comments at FR every day. They are the tantrum troops (my phrase for them) who will not vote against little barry bastard commie because they would have to cast a ballot for Milt Rominy to do so, so they are opting for his four more years of aborting the Republic.
The birth announcement in the liberal newspaper. It was in the newspaper, it must be so. (sarc)
Why > 40% of American voters choose to approve of the worst failed chief Executive EVER is a wakeup call that the RINO wing of the Republican Party chooses to ignore at our peril.
Why indeed do the RINOs choose to ignore and continue to play nicey-nicey?
What say all of you?
If he can't prove his LEGAL parents citizenship at the time of his birth he is not an NBC. His mother was not of legal age to convey citizenship to him. So, at best he is a native citizen if he can prove he was born in the U.S. At worst he is a bastard illegal alien.
..........................Seems to me if Hawaii can’t find the documentation, they don’t have the documentation. “I just know it’s around here somewhere!” is not good enough. .................
Well if they said that, then they would be admitting to the world that the bogus document that Zer0 came up with is, well, bogus!
Obama’s life is nothing but one GIGANTIC lie.
[ There is as much overwhelming evidence that he may not have been born in Hawaii as there is overwhelming evidence that he was.
All the man has done is present fraudulent papers and 2 newspaper birth announcements.
No hospital is claiming his birth, and the flight records for his mother’s return from Kenya is missing. ]
There is two weeks of conveiniently missing microfilm...
1. Fax hospital BC to anyone that wants it. Cost 10 cents.
2. Fax a copy of my official State BC to Anyone that wants it. Cost 10 cents. I have both in my possession 5 feet from my fax machine.
3. Send a notarized letter to Texas Department of Health Records that gives permission to give a certified copy of my birth certificate to anyone that asks for a copy. Cost of a stamp to mail or Fedex for overnight delivery.
For less than 1 dollar I can prove my citizenship.
If I use Fedex the total cost would be about 20 dollars.
This is not rocket science. If he is not hiding something, why has he spent 100s of thousands of dollars fighting this.If Obama is short the 20 dollars I will lend it to him.
Just sayin'
If they answer “yes” and it is a lie, they then become subject to Sheriff Joe’s jurisdiction for providing false information to the Sec’y of State in Maricopa county and once the administration changes hands, their protection from prosecution at the Federal level will be gone.
What’s funny is the simple logic of
“if what you posted online is a scan of what Hawaii has, why can’t we see what was scanned?”
Amazing how this phrase seems to work its way into every single damn article or discussion on this topic...
Talking point?
Thanks. Here’s what I posted there (on page 8 of the comments. sigh) and also sent to Keith Koffler (along with a few other comments:
Some things that should be known:
Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has found probable cause for forgery and fraud involving both Obama’s long-form BC and his draft registration. Less than 5 hours after telling Arpaio that Arpaio’s evidence was good, Andrew Breitbart fell to the ground dead. The same day, Rush Limbaugh received a bomb threat. The MSM TO THIS DAY has not reported the EVIDENCE that Apraio presented that day.
Some interesting points from that press conference:
1. Obama’s draft registration is the only one that came out of that post office at that time which lacked the first 2 digits of a 4-digit year stamp. (It has since been learned that the SSA has altered their definitions so that draft registrations can be destroyed - a move made within days of Arpaio’s decision to investigate Obama’s BC and draft registration).
2. The layers present on the long-form BC indicate that the image never came from a single paper document. Of particular concern is the fact that the content on the BC is alterable, with changes showing in the same font as the document uses, as well as the fact that the certifying elements (the only things that are supposed to show the genuineness of a document) can actually be picked up and moved around - showing they were pasted in from a different source.
3. The newspaper birth announcements include foreign-born children and children who were 2 years old - with no way to distinguish them from genuine children born in HI on the dates given in the announcements.
4. The only 1961 records of people coming into the US from outside the country that are missing. from NARA... are those from the week Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii. NARA has no explanation for why those records are missing. (The earliest passport applications for Obama’s mother are also missing - supposedly destroyed after a retention period was changed, but the required paper trail for the retention change and destruction also don’t exist, and other records that should have supposedly been destroyed were not destroyed. In addition the Passport Office is required to have index cards showing all passports issued to Obama’s mother, which are required to be disclosed to the public on request because she is deceased - but the Passport Office has refused to disclose those records for 2 years now).
Besides what was reported at the presser...
A. Posse commander, Mike Zullo, has confirmed that the media was threatened if they reported on the eligibility issue. This corroborates the claims of Doug Hagman, who was given a signed statement by a talk show host who said that the head of the media company told him that if he or any of his guests discussed the eligibility issue his career would be over and his life and his family’s lives were questionable.
B. Since then, Bettina Viviano and another Hillary supporter in the 2008 primary have said they heard from Bill Clinton’s own mouth that he knows Obama is ineligible. According to high democratic sources, Clintons were planning on revealing Obama’s ineligibility but were scared/threatened away when first Bill Gwatney (Bill’s good friend and chair of the Arkansas Democratic Party) was shot and then Stephanie Tubbs died of a supposed aneuyrism within 2 weeks of the DNC convention where each had promised to present a petition challenging the illegal shenanigans of the Obama people. The Ulsterman Report unwinds a web of crime and corruption surrounding the 2010 CA AG election which is suspected to have cleared the way for Kam Kuwata’s suspicious death, not being found for 2 weeks, and an autopsy not being performed - after Kuwata had revealed to insiders STRANGE goings-on involving Barack Obama at the DNC Convention (where Obama was either drugged, hypnotized, part of a cultic ritual, or something strange). IOW, we’re dealing with a LOT of corruption and disposal of inconvenient players.
C. According to Mike Evans, HI Governor Neil Abercrombie said he had gone to the hospitals in HI with a search warrant and had been unable to find any record of Obama’s birth there. He was looking for it there because there wasn’t one at the HDOH.
D. The Hawaii Department of Health has altered their 1960-64 birth index to include legally non-valid records. That birth index listed both Virginia Sunahara and Barack Obama II. (Virginia was born at Wahiawa Hospital on Aug 4, 1961 and died at Kapiolani Hospital the next day). But when an HDOH worker queried the database for Virginia Sunahara in response to my request, the database had no record under Virginia’s name; that record was presumably under a different name at that point. Since then a computer-generated abstract for Virginia has been released to her brother (but the HDOH refuses to provide a copy or let the brother see the original birth certificate), with a BC# far out of sequence with others - as is the BC# of Stig Waidelich, according to the HDOH’s own statements that BC#’s were assigned on the “date filed” for Oahu births. IOW, the HDOH itself has been caught manipulating their birth index, their database, and the BC#’s of at least 2 BC’s released from their office.
E. HDOH and OIP responses by Paul Tsukiyama have indicated that Obama’s BC was amended in 2006 and there are affidavits to support whatever is claimed on the BC, which would only be necessary for a late or amended birth certificate. Tsukiyama’s response actually cited the statute that refers specifically to late and amended BC’s. Late BC’s have a different BC numbering system (they have an L in front of the BC#) and “late” and/or “altered” have to be stamped on BC’s that are late or altered - which means that the HDOH would have immediately known that both the posted long-form AND the COLB that Obama posted are forgeries.
In addition, late and altered/amended BC’s are not legally valid; they have no probative value, and HRS 338-13 says that their probative value must be determined when presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. IOW, the State of Hawaii doesn’t vouch for the accuracy of anything on a late or amended BC; they CANNOT verify information from those BC’s. (This explains why the HDOH had to alter their birth index to allow legally non-valid records, in order to get Obama’s name on the list they show the public).
If the HDOH “verifies” anything for Obama, they are contradicting their own earlier revelations that Obama’s birth record was amended and former OIP Director Tsukiyama’s confirmation that Obama’s birth claims are supported by affidavits. At that point, the Hawaii government would have given contradictory, mutually-exclusive stories about Obama’s records.
The only way we will ever know what happened with Obama’s documentation is by auditing all the alleged citizenship records for him. There are 4 records he’s claimed to have, and ALL FOUR show signs of tampering: The long-form and COLB are both forgeries, the draft registration is forged, the SSN fails e-verify and was issued from CT even though Obama never lived there, and his passport file has been breached 3 times (with sources close to the investigation saying it was to alter the record). The inspector general for HHS has said that BC’s are not sufficient as sole verification of eligibility, and that states should require an audit of all the vital records and citizenship records if there are any signs of tampering - especially if much is at stake.
There could not be a more clear example of signs of tampering, and there is no possible instance where more would be at stake than what is at stake here.
Keith, because of the threats out there and the Alinsky-ing of anybody who is called a “birther”, I know you’ve got to say that you think Obama was born in Hawaii. Just like the people at Breitbart who haven’t keeled over dead yet have to do. But I hope in your heart you realize that the evidence for BIG, BIG problems regarding Obama’s eligibility is overwhelming, and multiple crimes have been committed to try to hide that fact.
However, some poor scumbag (or sucker) has to send that email, thereby putting their neck on the line.
Hooray for Arizona.
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