Posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:55 AM PST by blam
The Legenday White-Skinned Cloud People Of Peru
Village of the Cloud People
Archeologists have discovered a 12-acre lost city deep within the Amazon rain forest that may shed light on a long-lost tribe of white-skinned, blonde-haired people known as the Cloud People.
The Cloud People, also known in legend as “the white warriors of the clouds” established expansive kingdom located in the northern regions of the Andes in present-day Peru during the ninth century. Bordered by the Maranon and Utcubamba rivers, in the zone of Bagua, their civilzation extended up to the basin of the Abiseo river, and to the very edges of Peru’s northern Amazon jungle. The Cloud People were defeated by the Incas but later conquered them by aligning with the Spanish Conquistadors. Unfortunately, diseases brought to the New World by their allies eventually wiped the Cloud People out.
Past archeological discoveries were so heavily looted that little was left to learn about the Cloud People, who are referred to as Chachapoyas in Inca legends. Other pre-hispanic groups referred to the Cloud People as “White Gods” due to their height, blonde hair and blue eyes.
The spanish conqueror Pedro Cieza de Leon wrote they wore woolen clothing and wollen turbans, and described them as “the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” He also noted the Cloud People were significantly taller than the Spaniards, indicating they were Nordic and not Mediteranian. Another Spanish conqueror, Orellana, wrote similar descriptions. Verification of the Cloud People’s racial makeup came two years ago, when archaeologists found an underground burial vault inside a cave with five mummies, two intact with skin and hair.
According to Inca legend, the Chachapoyas remembered that their ancestors came from the East. The Amazon river is on the East and far east is the Atlantic Ocean. Archeologists have discovered paintings and drawings of large ships on the buildings of the Chachapoyas, indicating that they possibly traveled from Europe to South America by sea, passing through the Amazon river flows until they reached a more tolerable climate, away from the unbearable tropical heat of the Amazon jungle.
The Cloud People are probably best known for the Kuellap fortress on the top of a mountain in Utcubamba, which can only be compared in scale to the Incas’ Machu Picchu retreat, built hundreds of years later.
The newly-discovered fortress is tucked away in one of the most far-flung areas of the Amazon. Sitting at the edge of a chasm which may have been used as a lookout post, it was extremely isolated and very well-preserved.
The main encampment is made up of circular stone houses overgrown by jungle over 12 acres, according to archaeologist Benedict Goicochea Perez.
Rock paintings cover some of the fortifications and next to the dwellings are platforms believed to have been used to grind seeds and plants for food and medicine.
Curious, I looked up human albinism at Wikipedia, and found that eye color does range, and...
"...Eye conditions common in albinism include: Nystagmus, irregular rapid movement of the eyes back and forth, or in circular motion..."[4]
Actually, "warriors of the clouds" would apply better to the Incas themselves: scientists say that the short stature and proportions of the Andean peoples is well suited to the thin atmosphere at high altitudes.
But if you were an Inca and came across a people who were taller than others and possibly with a different skin tone from yours, you might make them part of your mythology -- and that would fit in well with European mythology.
We tend to assume that people from cold and snowy regions like mountains or polar areas are tall, blond, and blue-eyed, even though that's not the case for Incas, Sherpas, Eskimos, and other groups who actually inhabited those environments.
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“They would find they are albinos. The San Blas Indians have lived on islands off the coast of Panama for a zillion years and do not like intruders.”
Their language is speculated to have split from chocoe only ~5 centuries ago (just a philologists’ estimate based on drift); the obvious answer is the island-dwellers dialect began to shift from the mainland shoko around the time they began living on islands.
some islands (not the major ones) have inhabitants that, if taken without costume, look more like choko than kuna (or guna, as they seem to have changed it to now).
The mummy thing in peru should be prety easy to resolve with dna testing, lack of anything public isn’t encouraging.
Sorry for my late reply to you.
I want to thank you for your comments.
Could be some of George Zimmerman’s kin folks.
The DNA tests were inconclusive. The tissue is all dead.
However the spanish explores did say that there were blond haired white people in revalations by Pedro Pizarro.
He said they were whiter than the spanish and had hair the color of wheat (trigo)
You can read the english translation here:
http://archive.org/stream/historyofconques01pres/historyofconques01pres_djvu.txt
He never mentioned any eye color at all.
Albinos have white hair and white translucent skin. Nobody ever described Cloud People of Peru as albinos. The descriptions of them speak of light skinned people with brown or reddish hair, often wavy. Please provide some proofs that these people were dsecribed as albinos by those who encountered them in the previous centuries or admit that you posted a ‘hogwash’ comment.
The DNA results of the mummies mentioned in the book “Wurde Amerika in der Antike entdeckt?” by Hans Giffhorn indicate Siberian [native American] on the female ancestors’ side and Western European on the male ancestors’ side. My view is that in antiquity a ship of European men landed on the south American coast, then sailed up the Amazon river. The men then climbed the foothils of the Andes, either in an effort to cross the continent or in an effort to escape heat of the tropical lowlands. There they stayed and produced offspring with the local women and thus founded a light-skinned-light-colored-hair tribe.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-USjpU33QZPc/U-K-mtZkWPI/AAAAAAAAC4w/zbckbASruDI/s400/gringuito.png
No need to speculate unless you’re lazy and unwilling to find corroborative data; I’ve made it easy in my first post which should allow you to make up a reasonably well seasoned choice.
Regards,
T
(Assuming it gets approved.)
BTW, nobody has ever called me lazy....ever.
No on both accounts.
Did I miss a post somewhere that gave this data?
I don't understand what you're asking for?
I bet they exploited the "indigenous" people-of-color. Probably forced them to be heterosexual as well.[/sarcasm]
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