Posted on 02/10/2012 9:16:22 AM PST by Superstu321
Jonah Goldberg makes the case that Libertarians are a essential to the Republican party and that conservatives and libertarians aren't that different.
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“mentally handicapped”
In 1977, an act was passed that gives any mentally retarded/handicapped adult the same rights of any other adult, unless they have been adjudicated incompetent. They are not children-they are no different from any other adult with a disability-a former casemanager, I’m very familiar with that act. Elderly persons are not “dependent” in that sense unless they have been found incompetent, either-they have the same rights as you and I.
No where in the post YOU are responding to do I say that drug use is harmful.
So I guess that makes you a LIAR.
What are you talking about? We've ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.
How so? Is my support for the legality of the drugs alcohol and tobacco immoral?
The exception may not prove the rule, but as many of my like minded friends are askance at the Ron Paul cultism as you are.
False. You, in post #37:
"your dope is still illegal. Thanks for the incentive though to vote once again to make your lifestyle illegal."
Then why do you vote to make it illegal, as you said in post #37 you do?
It just doesn’t work for me or anyone I chose to know, thank God. One of the reasons I quit working for the state after 8 years were those dynamics. I’ve never regretted it.
“In 1977, an act was passed that gives any mentally retarded/handicapped adult the same rights of any other adult, unless they have been adjudicated incompetent. They are not children-they are no different from any other adult with a disability-a former casemanager, I’m very familiar with that act. Elderly persons are not “dependent” in that sense unless they have been found incompetent, either-they have the same rights as you and I.”
These laws are ridiculously loophole ridden and rarely enforced.
I personally know a woman, have known her since age 5, with fetal alcohol syndrome. She is just plain stupid. She lacks common sense. She can’t hold a job, she can’t write, she gets dehydrated to the point of entering an ER because she forgets to drink, she gets in weird situations like almost moving to the middle east to “marry” a foreign exchange student she met only on the internet, and only didn’t go because she couldn’t put the steps together to get her passport. She is currently sharing an apartment with junkies, although she does not use.
Last year she was raped, and gave birth to a baby a few months ago. She loves the baby. She’s raising this baby, in her junkie apartment, without enough sense to drink enough water herself or put sunscreen on when she is outside. She gets some welfare and is in regular contact with social workers. Nobody is taking the baby away.
This apparently perfectly normal baby is being raised by this woman. She is not in any but a physical sense an “adult.”
Nice try. The argument you asked for and claimed that I had already brought up was as to drug use being harmful. Not me responding to some gay doper calling me cupcake by laughing at his dope still being illegal.
Your views on drugs are immoral AND you are a hypocrite.
Using drugs is immoral, yet you want them legalized.
You (from other threads) don’t use drugs, alcohol or tobacco, yet you have no problem if others do so. Why would you advocate for others to screw their lives up if you yourself aren’t willing to do the same? That’s called hypocricy.
No, you are not understanding my basis.
Children are badly affected, even terminally affected, by using adults. Children need care by competent adults. Not high adults, not brain damaged adults, not addicted adults.
Mentally handicapped and dependent elderly are similarly dependent upon those of us who are fit and intelligent to take care of them. As a society, we must do this. We can’t do it when we are on drugs.
Libertarians I know advocate public sex if desired, public nudity, and blatant sexual content on public billboards, ads, etc. If you don’t, more power to you.
To anger nanny state libertarians like yourself who want to trample all over my right to representation on trying to have some public decency in the community I raise my children in.
So ALL adults should be subjected to the limits appropriate for the mentally handicapped and dependent elderly? Better ban alcohol, then - and guns, knives, power tools, and cars.
I touched on that in post 101-adults are not incompetent/dependent unless a court says so-an unwelcome fact for nannies.
You want laws limiting behavior that you believe to be harmful to you or your family, and you vote to make "dope" illegal. If you can't see the logical conlcusions of your statements, that's not my problem.
I don't advocate their use of anything, I just say it's not within the proper authority of government to prevent it. Glad I could clear that up.
“We’ve ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.”
Oh, dear-I thought we were at war with “Fantasia”...
(perhaps some humor is called for?)
Any church is a tribe, and it maintains its membership by pointing out how all of those NOT belonging to their group are wrong. In order to keep the group cohesive, it is necessary to point out both why being a member is good, and why being a non-member is bad.
Pay attention going forward. I bet you'll see it in action.
The point is that I never made any effort to make a “drug use is harmful” argument and yet you wanted to pretend that I did in order to get obnoxious to me as if I started something and wouldn’t finish it. That obviously is your problem and not mine.
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