WHY ARE WE STILL SUCH GULLIBLE FOOLS?

The Birther Summit ^ | 02/01/2012 | Dean Haskins

[sourcery]

The Constutional Meaning Of "Natural Born Citizen"

[Responsibility2nd]

The FAIL is strong on this post.

You either forgot your (Barf alert) or you like dancing kitties.

[Future Snake Eater]

This seems familiar.....

[sodpoodle]

***WHY ARE WE STILL SUCH GULLIBLE FOOLS?***

Not gullible - we are powerless!!

[visually_augmented]

MP:”Hawaii law (H.R.S. 338-18) prohibits access to, or inspection of, any birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a direct and tangible interest (generally, immediate family members). “

Of course the parenthesis is your own? I think there are those who would grant a wider definition of “direct and tangible interest” than you have provided. It may even include governing bodies in states besides HI. And I have no doubt at all that federal government entities could possibly have “direct interest” (INS, FBI, etc.).

[Texas Fossil]

Does this answer your question?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:musicproducer/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

[Responsibility2nd]

Yes, it certainly does.

He’s a blog pimp schilling for Obama.

Thanks for the link.

[Cicero]

Actually, this entire argument is filled with lies.

Is this you, Dean?

http://www.deanhaskins.com/index.html

I can understand that you are angry with some of the methods that others are pursuing in the matter of Obama’s eligibility, but you don’t gain any greater credit for your cause by doing so.

Yes, Obama is illegitimate because he violates the Constitutional requirement that he should be a natural born citizen.

But that doesn’t eliminate the great probability that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Both the COLBS he put on the web are obvious fakes, the short form and the later long form. I think it is legitimate to pursue all the possible avenues to expose his various criminal frauds.

Obama still has not released a certified paper copy of his birth certificate, or allowed experts to look at it. Why?

[SvenMagnussen]

There may be a valid reason to seek a Court order to unseal previously sealed certificates. The Full Faith and Credit Clause extends to state based Courts.

§338-17.7 Establishment of new certificates of birth, when. (a) The department of health shall establish, in the following circumstances, a new certificate of birth for a person born in this State who already has a birth certificate filed with the department and who is referred to below as the "birth registrant":

(1) Upon receipt of an affidavit of paternity, a court order establishing paternity, or a certificate of marriage establishing the marriage of the natural parents to each other, together with a request from the birth registrant, or the birth registrant's parent or other person having legal custody of the birth registrant, that a new birth certificate be prepared because previously recorded information has been altered pursuant to law;

(2) Upon receipt of a certified copy of a final order, judgment, or decree of a court of competent jurisdiction that determined the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship between a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file and the birth registrant;

(3) Upon receipt of a certified copy of a final adoption decree, or of an abstract of the decree, pursuant to sections 338-20 and 578-14;

(4) Upon receipt of an affidavit of a physician that the physician has examined the birth registrant and has determined the following:

(A) The birth registrant's sex designation was entered incorrectly on the birth registrant's birth certificate; or

(B) The birth registrant has had a sex change operation and the sex designation on the birth registrant's birth certificate is no longer correct; provided that the director of health may further investigate and require additional information that the director deems necessary; or

(5) Upon request of a law enforcement agency certifying that a new birth certificate showing different information would provide for the safety of the birth registrant; provided that the new birth certificate shall contain information requested by the law enforcement agency, shall be assigned a new number and filed accordingly, and shall not substitute for the birth registrant's original birth certificate, which shall remain in place.

(b) When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record.

[stylin19a]

Hawaii law (H.R.S. 338-18) prohibits access to, or inspection of, any birth certificate to anyone who doesn't have a direct and tangible interest (generally, immediate family members).

That's not what 338-18 says - also note #9 or (g) 1-5 says.

go here for the straight skinny

[bvw]

Well, no matter what one’s take on Pastor Manning is, his interview of document expert Doug Vogt, is lucid and clear. That is because Doug Vogt is a very lucid, clear, even tempered and well-spoken man. He sounds somewhat like Chief Justice Roberts does when talking.

Google “Doug Vogt’s Mega Neutron Bomb On Obama’s Eligibility”.

[Music Producer]

You obviously either didn’t read the article, or you don’t understand it. Obama cannot “allow” anyone to have access to any original documents that are held by the DOH. He is not the owner of any such record—the state is. Period.

[Music Producer]

You obviously either didn’t read the article, or you don’t understand it. Obama cannot “allow” anyone to have access to any original documents that are held by the DOH. He is not the owner of any such record—the state is. Period.

[Music Producer]

To keep things as simple as possible, I stated “generally.” I am fully aware of HRS 338-18. It doesn’t change the facts about what I stated regarding the current (repeated ad nauseum) strategy.

[bgill]

Kenyan Parliament - “how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become president of America?”

Dreams from My Father and dozens of other statements from Obama - Daddy was a Kenyan.

Forged BC he waved in front of tv cameras - Daddy a Kenyan.

The 2008 SR 511 committee of 6 US Senators, including the Kenyan and Clinton, and Homeland Security Chertoff signed their names in agreement to the definition of NBC meaning born in US or US military soil and having TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS. The Kenyan agreed a **second** time when that definition of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS passed the Senate.

[bgill]

The Governor of Hawaii, who does have free access to DOH, said there wasn’t a BC. Then he came back saying something maybe possibly might have been written on somewhere but never said there was indeed a real honest to goodness BC.

[bushpilot1]

Is Haskins supporting the case for Virginia’s brother to get her ‘vault birth certificate?

Who owns her birth certificate?

[El Sordo]

Good luck.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Is it asking too much for the arrogant jerk to release a document that we little people are required to release many times throughout our life times?

I've had to get a copy of the REAL long form birth certificate.. not some document with all the information -- a copy of the REAL thing.

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