Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

It's happening again. Progressives always reach a place to where they want to kill people.
PGA Weblog ^

Posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:42 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

A few days ago, an article titled "Is it morally wrong to take a life? Not really, say bioethicists" appeared in a journal for bio ethics. More than anything, note the context. This is being discussed by those who are "the experts" of ethics, by researchers from Duke University and the National Institute of Health. So we're supposed to take this seriously, that this is an enlightened and reasoned discourse on the matter. All of that gets shattered if you look at the verbage they use at the bottom:

This radical conclusion may shock some readers, but the authors are not murderers. They want to bring greater precision to what we mean by killing. Rendering someone totally and permanently incapacitated is just as bad as taking a life, or so they contend. Killing totally disabled patients does them no harm.
"Then killing her cannot disrespect her autonomy, because she has no autonomy left. It also cannot be unfair to kill her if it does her no harm."
Nor, they say, is life "sacred". The only relevant difference between life and death is the existence of abilities – and a brain-damaged person no longer has these.
"[I]f killing were wrong just because it is causing death or the loss of life, then the same principle would apply with the same strength to pulling weeds out of a garden. If it is not immoral to weed a garden, then life as such cannot really be sacred, and killing as such cannot be morally wrong."

So they know full well their proposal is radical, yet they've proposed it anyways. I can't get past the words they're using, they have made a 'good' attempt to soften the ground. Where have I heard such vile nastyness before? Oh yeah! Margaret Sanger. In her 1922 book "The Pivot of Civilization", Sanger incredibly wrote the following:(Page 265)

At the present time, civilized nations are penalizing talent and genius, the bearers of the torch of civilization, to coddle and perpetuate the choking human undergrowth, which, as all authorities tell us, is escaping control and threatens to overrun the whole garden of humanity.

Margaret Sanger also justified her radicalism by cloaking it in science. In 1925, "Birth Control: Facts and Responsibilities" was published. Now, being as this is still under copyright, I can't do anything with it. But Margaret Sanger did, repeatedly, imply or outright say and write things in reference to "human weeds".(as you can see)

This is always how it begins. Go after the "lowest hanging fruit" as they see it. The feebleminded, the neuronic, the idiots and imbeciles, the illiterate, the undesirables, the defectives. Those are all terms that were used by early eugenicists and progressives to denote their superiority above others. As we have seen from history, doctors should not have the power to make these decisions. Even when individuals make this sort of choice is bad enough, as noted by The Blaze, this: is the result of the devaluation of human life. But this kind of thing is nothing new. Let's get back to Margaret Sanger. In 1932, she penned an article titled "MY WAY TO PEACE" (From the Sanger public documents archive)

have Congress set up a special department for the study of population problems, and appoint a Parliament of Population Directors representing the various branches of science.

How nice. A politburo which will decide if you are worthy of life or not. And aptly named! The Parliament of Population.

(f) the whole dysgenic population would have its choice of segregation or sterilization.

(g) there would be farm lands and homesteads where these segregated persons would be taught to work under competent instructors for the period of their entire lives.

Yes, you read that right. This is where it always ends up. And note, as I go through all of this, how every bit of this relates back to what those bioethicists wrote just a week ago. They did everything but use the word 'feebleminded'. What Sanger wrote here sounds very similar to this:

"I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly appointed board, just as they might come before the income tax commissioners, and say every 5 years or every 7 years, just put them there, and say, sir or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you're not producing as much you consume, or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the big organization of our society, for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of any use to yourself

Would you say Shaw's proposal sounds like a proposal for a Parliament of Population? I think it does. Now, you don't have to go digging very far before you start to learn that Sanger was well acquainted with Fabian Socialism, having relationships with both Havelock Ellis(who was a contributor The Birth Control Review) and H G Wells. All one big happy circle.

Know history, and you know the future. While I don't expect that modern bio ethicists will go around talking about the feebleminded any time soon, I cannot say it won't happen. They're already going around talking about "human weeds". They have already placed themselves on this path. So what's next?


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: corruption; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberalprogresivism; progressingamerica; progressives; progressivescum; tyranny
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

1 posted on 01/31/2012 2:00:47 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bigheadfred; GladesGuru; Art in Idaho; Fiddlstix; FrdmLvr; Tainan; rockinqsranch; combat_boots; ...
If anybody wants on/off the revolutionary progressivism ping list, send me a message

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

2 posted on 01/31/2012 2:02:15 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Progressives have the ethics of Babylon.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 2:07:33 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 2:11:08 PM PST by miss marmelstein
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

Progressive’s ethics would appear to be copied from 1938 Nazi policy.Sounds a lot like the “useless eaters” program.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 2:15:11 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
When Leftists seize control , one way or another, it always comes down to mass murder for the greater good.
6 posted on 01/31/2012 2:20:24 PM PST by rdcbn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
Killers without conscience.

There is only one way to stop them. Only one way.

7 posted on 01/31/2012 2:21:07 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
The will of the individual is what should matter here. If my last wish was to be kept alive as long as possible, no matter how incapacitated, in the hopes that some day they may find a way to fix me? Then killing me is causing me harm. Absent no such wish to DNR (do not resuscitate) being expressed, the default should always be pro-life.

Even the meanest form of worm will try to avoid being killed.

You can negate your right to continue breathing by initiating force, fraud, or theft against another person... But that is a different argument...

8 posted on 01/31/2012 2:21:07 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Farmer Dean

The nazis got a lot of their tactics from American 1920s progressives.


9 posted on 01/31/2012 2:28:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Progressives/liberal ALWAYS reach the point eventually. They believe that THEIR idea of morality is so superior to everyone else that they can kill you.


10 posted on 01/31/2012 2:35:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

I’d like on your list. Wow. Just wow.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 2:44:18 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
Photobucket
12 posted on 01/31/2012 2:48:32 PM PST by mdel747
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Sounds like the plot in my favorite Twilight Zone episode “The Obsolete Man”.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734667/

Chancellor: Since there are no more books, Mr. Wordsworth, there are no more libraries. And of course it follows that there is very little call for the services of a librarian. Case in point: A minister would tell us that his function is preaching the word of God. And if course it follows that since the State has proven that there is no God, that would make the function of a minister academic as well.
Romney Wordsworth: There IS a God!
Chancellor: [shocked silence] You are in error, Mr. Wordsworth; there is no God! The state has proven that there is no God!
Romney Wordsworth: You cannot erase God with an edict!


13 posted on 01/31/2012 2:51:37 PM PST by DFG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
Well....er....yes. But they want to kill you for your own good, though.... Good intentions here outweigh the actual results...we all know that, don't we?
14 posted on 01/31/2012 2:53:43 PM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

It’s always for the greater good............/s


15 posted on 01/31/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica

Context matters to both the big government left and the individual freedom right. To us, it is not wrong to take the life of a criminal who poses an immediate threat to the life or safety of an innocent person. To them it is wrong to kill that criminal but it is not wrong to kill an innocent unborn child (including one accidentally born during abortion), and it is not wrong according to them to kill our elderly relatives once they can no longer do anything for us.


16 posted on 01/31/2012 4:01:45 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
Go after the "lowest hanging fruit" as they see it. The feebleminded, the neuronic, the idiots and imbeciles, the illiterate, the undesirables, the defectives.

In other words, Hussein voters.

17 posted on 01/31/2012 4:08:53 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dead Corpse

“The will of the individual is what should matter here. If my last wish was to be kept alive as long as possible, no matter how incapacitated, in the hopes that some day they may find a way to fix me? Then killing me is causing me harm. Absent no such wish to DNR (do not resuscitate) being expressed, the default should always be pro-life.”

Please address the financial/economic aspects of keeping you alive as long as possible, no matter how incapacitated, in the hopes that some day they may find a way to fix you.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 4:25:53 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping!

Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.

FreeRepublic moral absolutes keyword search
[ Add keyword moral absolutes to flag FR articles to this ping list ]

Another good history lesson from Progressing America. One that should be taught in high schools and colleges all over the country.

19 posted on 01/31/2012 5:36:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ProgressingAmerica
Related and may be of interest:
Not long before he died, Dr. Alexander read an article in the April 12, 1984, New England Journal of Medicine by 10 physicians—part of the growing "death with dignity" brigade. They were from such prestigious medical schools as Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and the University of Virginia. These distinguished healers wrote that when a patient was in a "persistent vegetative state," it was "morally justifiable" to "withhold antibiotics and artificial nutrition (feeding tubes) and hydration, as well as other forms of life-sustaining treatment, allowing the patient to die." They ignored the finding that not all persistent vegetative states are permanent.

After reading the article, Dr. Alexander said to a friend: "It is much like Germany in the '20s and '30s. The barriers against killing are coming down."

Above quote from here

MEDICAL SCIENCE UNDER DICTATORSHIP by DR. LEO ALEXANDER Introduction by C. Eckstein

In July of 1949, The New England Journal of Medicine printed an article by Dr. Leo Alexander titled MEDICAL SCIENCE UNDER DICTATORSHIP. Dr. Alexander acted as consultant to the Secretary of war, and the Chief of Counsel for War Crimes held in Nuremberg Germany.

The paper is considered a classic, justifiably earning the highest respect through the decades since its publication. In it, Dr. Alexander explains what happens to medicine when it "becomes subordinated to the guiding philosophy of the dictatorship." That philosophy is Hegelian, or "rational utility" which Alexander said "replaced moral, ethical and religious values."

What motivated physicians to judge that there is "such a thing as life not worthy to be lived."

How did such attitudes entice the healer to become killer?

Alexander said the crimes "started from small beginnings. The beginnings at first were merely a subtle shift in emphasis in the basic attitude of the physicians. It started with the acceptance of the attitude, basic in the euthanasia movement, that there is such a thing as life not worthy to be lived."

The physicians were not repulsed by this new attitude, nor did they survey the oiled slope. The theory was about to be put into practice. But first they had to take care of a few minor details, as for instance, the Hippocratic Oath. They would have to reject the ethics outlined in the over 2,000 year old vow.

They rejected the "non-rehabilitable sick", the "socially unwanted", the "unproductive" the unlovely and unlovable. Seduced by so-called "Hegelian rational", physicians veered unblushingly from noble physician to ignoble technicians. Dr. Alexander introduced a new term for destroyers of life, calling the science of killing, "ktenology".

In "The Example of Successful Resistance by the Physicians of the Netherlands." It was in this particular segment that Dr. Alexander applauded the small country for having such a large and brave heart. It was the Dutch physicians who risked their lives by standing firm against a dictatorship that threatened to change the practice of medicine forever. Considering the present situation in Holland, one might find the information contained, unbelievable.

Above continues here.

Go to the link if you want to read the full paper. You might want to begin with the final section. I did. It's titled "The Situation in the United States"


20 posted on 01/31/2012 6:37:54 PM PST by No One Special
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson