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Oklahoma City bombing: FBI sting gone wrong or murderous conspiracy for federal acquisition of power
Coach is Right ^ | 12/26/2011 | Doug Book

Posted on 12/26/2011 8:56:29 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

When Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue filed a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit against the Clinton Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Prisons he had no idea that the scraps of information grudgingly released by the federal government would be the first in a 15 year trail of evidence detailing the criminal involvement of the FBI, CIA, ATF and United States Secret Service in the planning and execution of the Oklahoma City bombing.

Since the 1995 murder of his brother Kenneth in his cell at the Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City, Trentadue has badgered, bullied, harassed, threatened and sued by the federal government of the United States. His Freedom of Information Act requests and inevitable lawsuits against those government agencies which have rigorously ignored them have provided extraordinary evidence of federal intrigue spanning 3 White House administrations.

He has documented the cover-up of FBI and Department of Justice involvement in his brother’s murder; a cover-up engineered by then Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder.

He has obtained evidence of CIA spy satellites concentrated on the Elohim City location of Oklahoma City bombing conspirators and bomb makers.

He has documented the roles played by FBI and ATF informants in the target selection of the Alfred P. Murrah building and the acquisition of bomb making materials.

He has records of a telephone contact to Elohim City confederates by bomber Tim McVeigh 2 days prior to the blast.

He has demonstrated that the FBI systematically erased key moments in video recordings detailing the route traveled by the Ryder truck used in the bombing.

He has forced the FBI to cynically claim in federal court that known-to-exist video of individuals filmed climbing out of that Ryder truck 3 minutes before detonation has “been lost.”

He spent 2 days with Terry Nichols at...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ericholder; fbi; jessetrentadue; okc; okcbombing; oklahomacity; oklahomacitybombing; trentadue
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1 posted on 12/26/2011 8:56:35 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Warning, Merely reading this information WILL put you on a LIST with the Government, They are ALL GUILTY and The People are finding out Slowly. What will become of this??
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING


2 posted on 12/26/2011 9:03:19 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have had a number of sticky points in regards to this bombing.... the fact that a survivor was walking between the building and the truck when the building blew up, and was blown ACROSS the street, and not into the building, the fact that the third story columns in the center of the building sheared clean instead of the front street level columns ( and the fact that the truck bomb could not have supplied sufficient force to shear these columns at the location they were sheared at ).. among other things.... but what bothers me the most is that I have seen all kinds of charts and graphs, but I have yet to see an actual picture of the bomb crater.... a blast with enough force to bring down this building ( and cleanly shear the third story center columns ) should have left at least a 25’ deep crater.... could someone settle my mind and produce a photo of the actual crater?


3 posted on 12/26/2011 9:05:09 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I tend to believe that it was a sting gone wrong that was used as a power grab.

Too many federal agencies screwing up and none knew what the others were doing and it all collapsed. Then came the cover up and the realization of an opportunity presented.


4 posted on 12/26/2011 9:05:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: eyeamok

You’re wrong,something will happen. More laws will be created to imprison the American People. “ War on Americans” will make War on Terrorism look like a cub scout meeting. Stay safe. Now we’re both on that “List”.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 9:11:50 AM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: cripplecreek
that was used as a power grab.

...Conspiracy theories are my favorite hobby.

6 posted on 12/26/2011 9:13:06 AM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: Pontiac

Bump for Later


7 posted on 12/26/2011 9:13:11 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because oit is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I’m voting for the absolute and evil abuse of power.


8 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:12 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Oldpuppymax

Not shocked by this. I believe Oklahoma was a mini version of 911. Also the government considers us as collateral, so for them they don’t care. Whatever happen to John Doe 2? We have corrupt people in our government and must be weeded out. I hope and pray we can bring TREASON charges against these bastards in the Federal government.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:17 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Oldpuppymax

Good Christ...

Well, I don’t know what to make of this, except for the one fact I know.

The powers that be in this country are as Evil as Evil can be.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 9:16:46 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: joe fonebone

I recall a CNN reporter running along with a firemen after someone shouted a bomb would go off. That firemen just came from the building and he told the reporter that he SAW, HE SAW explosives attached to all 4 corners of buildings but there were some that did not go off. I doubt this firemen was lying. That is very telling. The image of the reporter and firemen never left me and what he said has remined in my memory.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:06 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Oldpuppymax

Two words....Jamie Gorelick...same chick that messed up the 9-11 pre-hit investigation of the pilot that never cared about landing...


12 posted on 12/26/2011 9:26:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: VicVega

You are probably correct, it is a pretty sad and damning indictment against the entire news media in America when they refuse to TELL THE TRUTH, because it might be damaging to the Country as a Whole. When in Reality it is they that are doing even more Damage through their lies,misinformation, and selective blackouts about TRUTHFUL FACTS. Fortunately we still have the Internet for a couple more months, but this too will be co-opted by the State in a last ditch effort to retain power, it is already happening, they are desperate and it shows. see SOPA and the Defense Bill.


13 posted on 12/26/2011 9:28:31 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: cripplecreek

I tend to believe that it was a sting gone wrong that was used as a power grab.

Too many federal agencies screwing up and none knew what the others were doing and it all collapsed. Then came the cover up and the realization of an opportunity presented.>>

Sort of like “Fast and furious”, eh? Even has the same cast of characters,including Holder, and for basically the same reason.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 9:30:01 AM PST by gunner03
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To: joe fonebone
Consider the likelihood that ATF had a substantial cache of military weapons on the site, including unauthorized and improperly stored supplies of C4 and other explosives.

Perhaps the FBI had an informant in the bomber group - who turned out to be a triple agent and misinformed his handlers as to the time and location of the operation. Or perhaps the informant really did not know.

A brew of malevolent conspiracy and government incompetence can go a long way.

So a large truck filled with nitrate-fertilized based bomb gets in front of the ATF build, and when it goes off, it cooks off the armory inside.

McViegh is captured at a "routine traffic stop" by an astonishingly lucky state trooper. The report of a third man at the Ryder truck rental along with McVeigh and Nichols gets buried. The McVeigh connection with a Filipino Muslim group and his travels to the Philippines gets buried.

All of the surveillance video of the explosion goes "missing". Seismic records from the US Geological survey, which according to their geologists clearly indicate **two explosive events** are ignored. Those same geologists and their entire group are subsequently laid off due to "budget reductions".

Nothing to see here. Move along.

15 posted on 12/26/2011 9:35:18 AM PST by flamberge (What next?)
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To: gunner03

Seeing how how Holder got away with being involved in the OKC bombing a little gun running should have been a walk in the park.


16 posted on 12/26/2011 9:36:34 AM PST by fudimo
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To: Oldpuppymax
"""""because unimaginably evil and power hungry denizens of Washington DC believed a tragedy like Oklahoma City would ensure a new level of federal department funding and increased power over the rights of American citizens which can only be acquired following disasters of massive proportion?""""""

There you have it. Think Gun Control & the fact that Militia groups were organizing all over the country, have to demonize them, believe it was Dan Rather who did a TV show from OK, with many of the militia there to be interviewed by him.

Waco was just the start of all this, Clinton needed a fight and he got one, which carried over to OKC with the bombing, and there were men of Arab descent who were captured that night, questioned and simply let go free, they left the country (all very quickly).

The truth will never be known, to many "respectable people involved", political purposes, whatever, but Truth will never be known. For any truth to come out now,(or then) is simply to be considered as conspiracy theory. Our government is not our friend.

Then Clinton came to OKC for the opening of the Murrah Memorial to piss on us again.

17 posted on 12/26/2011 9:38:04 AM PST by annieokie
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To: eyeamok

Hate to be right with regards to this fiasco. And yes, SOPA and the DB is taking away our rights and their tool to control us physically and mentally. Fear being their biggest tool. Websites like this one will be censored or shut down because it’s not supportive of “dear leader”.


18 posted on 12/26/2011 9:38:25 AM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This is like a repeat of pre WW2 Germany where the government seeking absolute power kills its own thus creating a fabricated enemy so the power brokers can make money from the war that followed. HISTORY proves every war has had a silent third party who in the end is the primary benefactor of the war. WW 1 & 2, the benefactors were the banking families (money brokers) in Europe and the only thing that has changed since is that now there are money/power brokers in the Europe, US and the middle east. One would be hard pressed to convince me the powers behind the US government was not involved in 9/11.


19 posted on 12/26/2011 9:40:09 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Oldpuppymax

Clinton’s “gun walker”.


20 posted on 12/26/2011 9:45:04 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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