Posted on 11/24/2011 7:24:07 AM PST by marktwain
Now that HR 822 has passed the House of Representatives in overwhelming fashion, it moves to the Senate. Unless I am greatly mistaken, there is significant pressure on senators from both sides of the debate. The Brady Campaign is ramping up the pressure with an auto-mailer campaign asking senators to vote no. Nonetheless, even they admit they don't have the votes to stop it.
I sent an email today to Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) about the bill. While I have no worries that Sen. Richard Burr will be a solid backer of the bill, Hagan can be wishy-washy despite her claims of being a Second Amendment supporter. What surprised me was that I got an email back from her office almost immediately discussing her stance - if you could call it that - on the bill. If she hadn't been getting lots of mail on the issue, she wouldn't have been so prepared to issue something other than a generic thank you for your letter response.
Dear Friend,Thank you for contacting me regarding National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822). I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this important issue.
This bill was introduced in the House of Representatives on February 18, 2011, and was referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
If enacted, the bill would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry their firearm in any other state that also issues concealed firearm permits. Currently, 48 states, including North Carolina, have laws permitting residents to carry concealed firearms.
While H.R. 822 has yet to reach the Senate, I pledge to keep your thoughts on this issue in mind. My family, like the great state of North Carolina, has a long tradition of hunting and gun ownership, and I take great pride in that heritage. I have opposed requiring gun owners to obtain federal licenses or creating a federal system to track gun sales and transfers, as I believe these proposals would infringe this important constitutional right. I will continue to support the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment.
Again, thank you for contacting my office. It is truly an honor to represent North Carolina in the United States Senate, and I hope you will not hesitate to contact me in the future should you have any further questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Kay R. Hagan
If you haven't already done it, it is time to contact both of your state's senators and urge them to vote for the National Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. I wouldn't want to think that our voices could be drowned out by an auto-mailer run by the Brady Campaign.
It won't pass the Senate but if it does, Obama will veto it in a hot second and not lose a wink of sleep over any political implications.
I am shocked to hear this bill has a greater chance of passing the Senate than a snowball in Hell. I thought it would be dead as a doornail, even though Reid’s one reasonable position is on gun rights (he’s been a reliable vote for them). Didn’t the NRA support Reid over Angle?
However, if this doesn’t have 2/3 support in both houses it will still die by Obama’s veto.
Let all the states do the right thing on this and create the reciprocity. No need for the Feds on this.
On the other hand, if he has any intelligence at all, he'll realize this bill will do nothing to increase crime, but will likely decrease it in all states except IL (land of no 2nd Amendment rights). So, for the good of the country, he ought to sign it.
But Obama does not operate for the good of the country.
Are we sure there is nothing evil hiding in this bill? I think requiring states that allow carry to recognize each other's carry permits is a win. The ruling class in states like NJ will crap their pants, though, and their citizenry are going to howl that people from other states can carry when they can't (effectively, no permits are issued).
But there is. States like NJ, NY, DE, CA will not recognize the 2nd Amendment right to carry; even though they have laws on the books to issue permits, very few if any permits get issued. Federal reciprocity forces the issue.
In NY....I know plenty of dudes who “carry”....and legally.
Great. But I can't, as a permit holder in NC. What are the prospects for the governments of NY, ME, CT, RI, MD, or NJ to vote to recognize my permit. NIL, ZIP, ZERO, NADA, I would think. Those statists hate issuing permits to their people; they sure don't want some backwoods hick from NC carrying 3 pistols around in their state.
Again, national reciprocity forces the issue.
Well, in reality Reid and many other Democrats with similar voting records on Second Amendment rights are not as good as their direct votes make it seem.
Reid voted against Roberts and Alito, and for Kagan and Sotomayor. From these votes, and his stated preferences for judicial philosophy, he supports a judges and Sup Court that he knows would gut the Second Amendment of any real meaning.
So he is in large part a fraud on this issue.
Well, in reality Reid and many other Democrats with similar voting records on Second Amendment rights are not as good as their direct votes make it seem.
Reid voted against Roberts and Alito, and for Kagan and Sotomayor. From these votes, and his stated preferences for judicial philosophy, he supports a judges and Sup Court that he knows would gut the Second Amendment of any real meaning.
So he is in large part a fraud on this issue.
Why is America failing, because our leaders no longer obey the Constitution.
Would this bill require registration on a Federal data-base of any CCW guns?
I agree.
However, this time I’m not looking for a good vote on a judge, I want him to move this piece of legislation to the floor. As Majority Leader he is certainly capable of stopping it, but he has the option of allowing votes, which I hope hell do.
If federal legislation requires reciprocity, the feds will be setting the standards. Currently Texas and several other states don't recognize Utah CHL's. The feds could force everyone to accept Utah's low standards, or they could enact such onerous requirements that would make it more difficult to carry across state lines.
No.
And not only that, in the last "mini-bus" appropriation bill, the House re-affirmed that no money is to be spent on creating any federal database of gun owners.
Didn't happen with marriage or drivers licenses. This is not a fed ccw issue law.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.
gettinolder
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