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It would be very good to force President Obama to either sign or veto this bill.
1 posted on 11/24/2011 7:24:15 AM PST by marktwain
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It would be very good to force President Obama to either sign or veto this bill.

It won't pass the Senate but if it does, Obama will veto it in a hot second and not lose a wink of sleep over any political implications.

2 posted on 11/24/2011 7:29:16 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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I am shocked to hear this bill has a greater chance of passing the Senate than a snowball in Hell. I thought it would be dead as a doornail, even though Reid’s one reasonable position is on gun rights (he’s been a reliable vote for them). Didn’t the NRA support Reid over Angle?

However, if this doesn’t have 2/3 support in both houses it will still die by Obama’s veto.


3 posted on 11/24/2011 7:31:19 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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While H.R. 822 has yet to reach the Senate, I pledge to keep your thoughts on this issue in mind [but prolly vote against it]. My family, like the great state of North Carolina, has a long tradition of hunting [WTF?] and gun ownership, and I take great pride in that heritage. I have opposed requiring gun owners to obtain federal licenses or creating a federal system to track gun sales and transfers, as I believe these proposals would infringe this important constitutional right. I will continue to support the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment.[in my wishy-washy fashion]
4 posted on 11/24/2011 7:40:11 AM PST by umgud
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I don't know what to think about this. Obama has a lot of big-money supporters who are rabidly anti-gun, and he might veto the bill just to appease them.

On the other hand, if he has any intelligence at all, he'll realize this bill will do nothing to increase crime, but will likely decrease it in all states except IL (land of no 2nd Amendment rights). So, for the good of the country, he ought to sign it.

But Obama does not operate for the good of the country.

Are we sure there is nothing evil hiding in this bill? I think requiring states that allow carry to recognize each other's carry permits is a win. The ruling class in states like NJ will crap their pants, though, and their citizenry are going to howl that people from other states can carry when they can't (effectively, no permits are issued).

6 posted on 11/24/2011 7:53:22 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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Why is America failing, because our leaders no longer obey the Constitution.


13 posted on 11/24/2011 8:19:26 AM PST by Logical me
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Something doesn't pass the smell test here....

Would this bill require registration on a Federal data-base of any CCW guns?

14 posted on 11/24/2011 8:34:52 AM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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I’d like to see the gun rights orgs/pols expand the CCW power to allow direct shipment of firearms, even if they have to do the 4473 thing. If the CCW holder has passed both state and federal background checks, he should have the ability to receive firearms directly. Right now I’d even settle for being able to buy a handgun in another state.

Constitution carry states would be a problem, but then one can usually get a permit from another state - so long as the background check requirement is met.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 9:30:19 AM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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