Posted on 11/06/2011 7:07:21 PM PST by Morgana
Speaking on a Vatican proposal to restructure world finance, a Cardinal declared, "We should not be afraid to propose ideas even if they might destabilize pre-existing balances of power that prevail over the weakest."
And does this include the position enjoyed by the Vatican as well?
Or is this yet another example of the "don't do as I do, do as I say" mentality that prevails among globalist elites?
Before calling for the redistribution of global wealth, shouldn't an institution calling for such divest itself of its ostentatious finery that, despite having a certain beauty, wasn't necessarily part of the founder's original business plan when operating in the field?
Before lecturing the rest of us how we need a goodly portion of what we have taken away in the name of the downtrodden, how about telling the downtrodden to exercise a little control over themselves by refraining from having so many children that they can't afford?
Isn't that the greater act of selfishness, going through with one's own carnal enjoyment despite knowing the that the life of the resultant progeny will be likely destitution?
Shouldn't one of the world's foremost moral authorities instead be calling for more independent creation of wealth rather than the centralized bureaucratic redistribution of such resources?
The Vatican insists such reforms are required in order to make the world economy more responsive to democracy.
So what is going to protect Vatican assets when the enemies of all forms of Christianity vote to confiscate that institution's vast and historically varied holdings?
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What is one supposed to glean from that quote, assuming it's accurate?
Chode if you are in the house will you please come in and help me with this????
This isn’t too surprising for the Vatican, if one studies the eschatology of Roman Catholicism.
The RCC firmly believes God has appointed the RCC as His Body on earth to rule His Creation.
One of the reasons “Liberation Theology” is so popular amongst Catholic roots and communist/socialist leaning agendas in Central America, was based upon the Catholic perspective that they have the moral imperative to direct where the wealth should go anyways, by Divine mandate issued through the Church.
Their position is not so based upon charity as upon their firm belief in their authority having been given absolutely, and legitimately by God through Peter and continued through the millenia by their definition of the Church.
Why is the Vatican speaking of worldly orders? Are they not supposed to be separate?
Not surprising. Too many assume Catholic bashing is the issue. It’s not.
That the media wants you to believe that X is true about the Catholic church.
It’s unattributed, and that’s your first red flag. You might as well grab a pilgrim and get him to fill in.
“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
Translation: Stick to saving souls and leave the secular stuff to the world. Once the church crosses the line, it becomes vulnerable to be being co-opted and corrupted by the world.
I tend to agree stories like this are approached and brought forth with an agenda. I’d still be interested in knowing what the comment would mean, however, if it’s a valid quote.
“This isn’t too surprising for the Vatican, if one studies the eschatology of Roman Catholicism.”
Eschatology? That word concerns the affairs of life after death. I’m not sure what you think it means.
“The RCC firmly believes God has appointed the RCC as His Body on earth to rule His Creation.”
No. The Catholic church believes that God chose Peter to be the head of His church here on earth, and gave Peter the command to spread the word of Christ amongst men. They also believe that there is an unbroken line of priests from Peter to now, where the current head of the Church, is of this line, ie, the Pope.
The Church teaches nothing about dominion over all the earth, except that it will be the province of Christ when he returns.
“Catholic perspective that they have the moral imperative to direct where the wealth should go anyways, by Divine mandate issued through the Church.”
Except that the Church doesn’t believe this and gaging the Church by liberation theologists, is no different than gaging Protestants by Mormon theology. Liberation theology is heretical and condemned by the Church.
I’m not sure where you are getting this, but you are very wrong about what the Church believes.
denouncing the profit-at-all-cost mentality
Total strawman. Show me anyone who believes a profit-at-all-cost mentality which would countenance murder for profit, prostitution, theft, etc etc.
“I’d still be interested in knowing what the comment would mean, however, if it’s a valid quote.”
If it were a valid quote it would be attributed. The reporter is just ‘reporting’ on his own opinion, nothing more.
your correct edpc...
Pope’s encyclical on Marxism explains why it is an evil philosophy and antithetical to Catholic Theology==the main reason (and there are lots besides being godless) is that they believe in “the end justifies the means”. In other words, you can kill a few people if it helps make the world a “better” place (according to the Marxist Masters).
Christians have to treat every single person with dignity and respect and it is never justified to use human beings as just a means to an end. Can’t use them like an object-—for selfish lust, or whatever. It removes human dignity.
They have acknowledged Capitalism is great if the people are moral, but if people are immoral, it can be extremely evil. Capitalism isn’t good or bad—just the people using the system. So, Capitalism is good if the people using it are good. That really works with most any system, though==even a Philosopher King.
I believe that I have read articles which have stated in the Catholic Press that Capitalism has led to the most wealth and freedom which is really noted by the amount of religious freedom which was so great in America. So they are noticing which system works best.....subsidiarity is a basic tenant of theirs, after all, but the Church has been infiltrated by Marxists/homosexuals, so you really have to read around those few radicals.
That latest article was written by one of there radicals.
“So they are noticing which system works best.....subsidiarity is a basic tenant of theirs, after all, but the Church has been infiltrated by Marxists/homosexuals, so you really have to read around those few radicals.
That latest article was written by one of there radicals.”
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You seem to really want this to be true. Why?
This is kind of like bogus sexual harassemnt claims. Some “Catholic” group comes out and makes a statement and it is gospel unless the Vatican distances themselves from it. There are a billion Catholics out there and the “Vatican”, usually meaning the pope, can’t know what they are all saying and doing because they aren’t God, they are God’s representatives on earth.
I want this "meaningless paper" written by "radicals" in the church to be addressed by the church. Whether it's the way "it works" or not, they need to rid themselves of this element if it's not where they stand.
Little bit of a difference if the person in question is in a church department.
The Roman Catholic Church as ‘Holy Mother our Church’ has always legally avoided paying taxes whenever possible. The Church teaches ‘Catholic economics’ which is> ‘Love God above all things & Love your neighbor as yourself.’
It’s incorrect to view the teachings of The Roman Catholic Church as:> Marxists, Socialist, Capitalist or any other economic theory except> ‘Catholic-economics.’
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