Bâri′ M. Shabazz - Barack Obama’s identity at birth. [For what it's worth]

Terrible Truth ^ | 11/2/2011 | Martha Trowbridge

[GregNH]

Yes, 28 October was the day, in 1959, in New York City, that the man who presents himself as Barack Hussein Obama was born Bâri′ M. Shabazz.

[Future Useless Eater]

Could anyone discern who was the supposed mother of Bari Malik Shabazz? I read the article, but didn't see it mentioned. I assume from the story, that it must have been some neighborhood woman, who lived ONE BLOCK away from Malcolm, and NOT the woman that Malcolm was married to and living with.

It might be interesting to see BMS's birth records, school records, school yearbooks, drivers license photo, girlfriends recollections and photos of him, etc...

And especially, did the biological birth mother of BMS happen to die in 1970? (...in 1982 when Virginia Geoldner and her husband and children visited the Dunhams, Madelyn told the Goeldners that the boy they had been looking after, who was now on the mainland at college, had been living with them SINCE HIS MOTHER DIED IN 1970. - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=128#128

There are quite a lot of details in this new story about BMS that don't jive with what few realities we thought we already knew about BHO II, but then I'm not sure we really know ANYTHING about him.

I'd have to see a few more dots connected before I start swallowing this BMS = BHO II story.

...hmm, while I'm on this subject, if this picture on the left, apparently taken in Indonesia in late 1970 (since Maya was born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia) is legitimate, then how could Barry have been in the 3rd grade Hawaii in 1969 with Scott Inoue in 1969? And does he really look TWO years younger in the photo on the right?

Also, could SAD just be the 'nanny' in that photo, who took over (assuming Maya's mother died during childbirth) in 1970? That could help explain why BHO needed new foster parents in 1971 and ended up with SAD's mom in Hawaii. And that would still keep Virginia Geoldner's story intact.

Fred Nerks, has anyone seen the tax returns of SAD prior to 1971? Or better yet, prior to 1970?

[bluecat6]

1969 and 1970 are problematic in the history line.

Check out this article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

The supposed first meeting with FMD was 1970 - when Barry was age 10 (according to the article):

“Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10. “

The problem - Barry is not supposed to return to the US until October of 1971.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Nov/09/ln/hawaii811090361.html

“In 1971, at age 10, Barack Obama was back in Honolulu with his grandparents, who had moved to Apartment 1206 at 1617 S. Beretania. Two years later, the Dunhams and Obama settled into Apartment 1008 in the same 96-unit building, built in 1965. This was Obama’s primary residence until he left Hawai’i in 1979 after high school graduation.”

So he was 10 in 1969, he was 10 in 1970 and he was 10 in 1971...

So is this where the timeline gets stretched out to make 1959 into 1961??

8/13/1968 SADS makes early application to REMOVE BHO (Saebarkah) from her passport. She is in Jakarta. Indicates she is planning to stay in Indonesia indefinitely.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=187825

10/22/1968 Apollo 7 mission - first manned Apollo mission First manned Apollo. Reference due to Obama’s reference to see Apollo astronauts after splashdown in book.

12/20/1969 Obama attends Noelani elementary school per photo from Scott Inoue. In conflict with the story of Obama being only in Indonesia from 1967 to 1971

http://joytiz.com/2009/obama-ten-year-old-third-grader/

7/18/1970 Stanley Ann Dunham’s passport from 1965 expires
8/15/1970 Maya Sorento born
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham_Soetoro

9/1/1970 Date not exact. 1970 is year cited in article as when Obama met Frank Marshall Davis - problem - Obama is supposed to be in Indonesia… “Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

10/20/1971 SAD and BHO Jr. leave Indonesia Pan Am flight 812

10/21/1971 SAD and BHO Jr arrive in Hawaii from Indonesia
http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/83-updated-stanley-ann
10/21/1971 BHO jr. returns to Hawaii Lives with grandparents - address - Apartment 1206 at 1617 S. Beretania
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Nov/09/ln/hawaii811090361.html

12/15/1971 BHO Senior visits Hawaii for a month
http://www.fcaea.org/aid=162.phtml
1/4/1972 SAD reapplies for passport indicating she will be there indefinitely. SADOS, a teacher, (re)applies for a US passport by mail from her father’s home in Hawaii to travel to her permanent residence at DJL Taman Matraman Barat, 22 Pav, Djakarta, Indonesia, stating she is returning “home” in 10 days to stay indefinitely. She amends passport to include/exclude “Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)”, probably excluded because Soebarkah is remaining in Hawaii
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/ot/

1/14/1972 SAD returns to Indonesia

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/ot/

7/1/1972 SAD comes back to Hawaii with Maya after leaving Lolo. Date is not exact
http://www.geni.com/people/Stanley-Ann-Dunham/6000000000240233401

[El Sordo]

Negatory.

It’s a well know fact that Obama’s name is really “Steve”.

He said so himself.

[patriot08]

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[Texas Fossil]

Those who question his papers are not appreciated here on FR.

I understand those who find it a waste of time to pursue.

But there is a real issue with his story. It is a total fabrication.

The puzzle for me is “why” no one will take the issue serious.

It is a very serious matter, when a Commie sleeps at 1600 Penn. Ave. and acts as Commander in Chief.

[bgill]

Get more proof and connect the dots better as this reads like something pulled out of thin air.

That said, he resembles and sounds like X and nothing like Sr. One would think that there’d be rumors throughout the years of a basstard son of X out there but there’s been nothing.

[bgill]

It’s a well know fact that Obama’s name is really “Steve”. He said so himself.

Just connecting more dots: Steel Magnolias', Clairee Belcher said, "And all gay men are named Mark, Rick, or Steve."

[RWGinger]

I am like you. I truly do not get why traditional media won’t investigate 0dumbo like they are Cain.
surely even the stupidiest person at CBS can see 0dumbo is destroying our country
or surely someone at ABC cares.

This stonewalling and water carrying by media scares the chit out of me

[Texas Fossil]

Not just the Media, but all 3 branches of government.

There is something really big here that we do not see.

[El Sordo]

Hmmmmmm....

This bodes poorly for candidate Perry.

[Fred Nerks]

Link to the original article:

“Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”

http://www.nlrtimes.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt

[Fred Nerks]

...There are quite a lot of details in this new story about BMS that don't jive with what few realities we thought we already knew about BHO II, but then I'm not sure we really know ANYTHING about him...

The article contains the following:

From the Social Security Death Index database:

SHABAZZ, B M

28 Oct 1959

Aug 1994 (V) 34 (PE)

(none specified) New York 084-54-5926

I take that to mean date of birth 28 October 1959, date of (unverified)'death' August 1994.

article link

But if we go back to a previous article BY THE SAME AUTHOR - we find this:

A photo in Muhammad Speaks places Stanley Ann Dunham and Baby Barack at Malcolm X’s Nation Of Islam Annual Rally in Chicago, Illinois. Allegedly taken on 23 February 1962, the date is coincident with Stanley Ann’s alleged enrollment at The University Of Washington in Seattle.

article link

So I see a major disconnect - he can't have been born in 1959 and be a few months of age in the image FROM AN EVENT IN FEBRUARY - that appeared in 'Muhammad Speaks' in APRIL 1962.

As for the date is coincident with Stanley Ann’s alleged enrollment at The University Of Washington in Seattle the transcript we have seen commences September 1961, iirc.

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[DiogenesLamp]

“Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”

http://www.nlrtimes.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt

That article has been demonstrated to be full of errors. Many months ago I discussed this with someone and we discovered that there are TWO articles by the same writer. The EARLIER article gets all the facts correct. The subsequent article is full of mistakes.

Virginia Goeldner knows exactly who Stanley Ann Dunham was, and to whom Barry belongs. If you can't find the earlier version of the article which reports things correctly, i'll see if I can find it again. Somewhere in my posts is a link to it.

I remember it was in a discussion with that guy who keeps claiming that Madelyn is the mother, and Frank Davis is the father. I forget his name.

[bgill]

There you go. I’d written the author off as total hogwash with the little ones listened thing but now he’s in the total bs file.

[plenipotentiary]

“A photo in Muhammad Speaks places Stanley Ann Dunham and Baby Barack at Malcolm X’s Nation Of Islam Annual Rally in Chicago, Illinois. Allegedly taken on 23 February 1962, the date is coincident with Stanley Ann’s alleged enrollment at The University Of Washington in Seattle.”

No one knows the date of the photo.

[Fred Nerks]

You are correct, no one knows the DATE of that photo. It does however, appear in the archives of ‘Muhammad Speaks’ page 18 - APRIL 1962.

[SunkenCiv]

thanks Future Useless Eater.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2801934/posts?page=21#21

[Fred Nerks]

http://arkansasmatters.com/news-fulltext?nxd_id=142371&nxd_143961_start=13160&nxd_208975_start=10

Obama’s Great Aunt Talks about ElectionPrint Article

Reported by: Lauren Lea, KARK 4 News
Wednesday, November 05 2008

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http://www.todaysthv.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=75208

Arkansan Has Family Ties To President-Elect Obama
7:59 PM, Nov 6, 2008 |

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Maumelle couple excited about their nephew’s new job: President-elect

By Bill Lawson \ Staff Writer \ blawson@maumellemonitor.com
Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:04 PM CST

http://www.nlrtimes.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt

[Fred Nerks]

SAME AUTHOR SAME DATE:

Obama’s aunt did not expect this

By Bill Lawson \ Staff Writer \ blawson@nlrtimes.com
Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:02 PM CST

http://www.maumellemonitor.com/articles/2008/11/13/the_times/local_news/nws01.txt

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Maumelle couple excited about their nephew’s new job: President-elect

By Bill Lawson \ Staff Writer \ blawson@maumellemonitor.com
Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:04 PM CST

http://www.nlrtimes.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt