Posted on 10/24/2011 7:19:18 PM PDT by Bokababe
The Tea Party was a beautiful happening! So beautiful was the sight of watching our citizens rise up in opposition to a federal government that has lost any sense of restraint that it is easy to forget that the enlightenment, which made it all possible, came at a heavy price – the expansion of government, debt, and an obscene redistribution of wealth from the people to a few select financial firms and companies. All the hope that the Tea Party provided, along with the labor, sacrifice, and treasure that was involved in organizing it, will be for naught if we do not examine how it was that the purveyors of big government got into power with our support to begin with...I write this because I feel we are on that same tired road; the same road that gave us the bailouts and a fourteen trillion dollar national debt. We are traveling this road because we are forgetting the lessons of the past. We are engaging in the very behavior that cost us dearly in the past and will burden generations to come. We are allowing those very people who the Tea Party sought to remove from influence to regain their power.... If you think my words embellished, ask yourself the following question: why is it that the top three candidates in the Republican Presidential Primaries are the only ones in the “conservative” field that supported the bailout of Wall Street?
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Glenn Beck being shut down didn’t help either.
The enemy has been very busy.
The Tea Party has lost about half the side of its message. The beginning of the Tea Party was against the bailouts, but now it is just against a tax increase and deficit spending. The Tea Party needs to remind the government that bailouts are still not acceptable.
I tell myself that we need to get more pub governors and Senators for sure....but we need to rid this country of the rats....only then will we have a chance...
Should have stuck with opposition to bailouts and other financial issues..
T-party getting scooped by OWS.
Lost momentum and lost the single best issue with which to beat not only Obama, but plenty of Congressial Dems and RINOs in 2012 who supported/still support bailouts.
Some of us have been saying this for 2 years now.
OWS is a passing fancy. It’s another popular ‘left thing’ to do right now. You know, the people that are never satisfied no matter what’s happening with our economy, country or our government and who just love to protest because their college buddies told them they need to. They’re yelling at and blaming the wrong people. They should be yelling in front of the White House at the man/child empty suit. It will pass. Stay tuned for the Tea Party tsunami at the polls in 2012!!!
I hope you are right but I’m not seeing it.
Tea party dropped the ball on issues like crony bailouts which had wide appeal .. in opposition.
I get updates everyday with news and actions. Stop being so negative and join the movement. Get your friends and families involved. Spread the word via email and facebook. It will grow and spread if you get involved.
There is no TEA Party. There are TEA Parties. And although some of you don’t participate, don’t project onto the rest of us.
“I recommend that those who wonder about the Tea Party, look online for groups that are meeting in your vicinity. I’m sure they have a webpage. Check it out.”
Holy moly folks, take a breath (not you Mia). The TEA party is alive and well, but we have to work everyday, and can’t go play in the street like a handful of punks. That’s all OWS is, a handful of punks, and the typical morons in the media, and the democrat party. The American people neither support or empathize with these idiots, and the story is getting stale, despite the media’s attempt to splash an above the fold headline every time 2 smelly hippies get together to bitch, moan, and compare tye-dyes.
When your enemy is destroying himself, don’t do anything to stop him.
Everyone on the thread that has stated that “Wall Street” caused the economic crisis has outed yourself as a leftist troll, or a Paulbot (redundant statement). You know good and darn well that Barney Frank, and the Fannie May, Freddie Mac corruption started this ball rolling. The banks have some culpability, but the liberals almost crashed our entire banking system, and they’re still trying.
We still have over a year until the election. We have a primary season to go through yet, and if the TEA party is so dead why is Herman still rockin’ the house after Sarah’s decision? We’re going into the holiday season. I plan (I’m sure many Conservatives and Christians agree)to enjoy the holidays with my family, and GASP! there may be whole days I don’t think about Obozo, Reid, DC, the liberals, or politics at all. After we have rung in 2012, we’ll put away the decorations, get out the yard signs, and get rolling.
If we quit bitching at each other, focus on the goal at hand (cleaning all the non-Conservative scum out of office), and stay motivated we will win next Nov. All of us may not get everything we want but we can have most of it, and have a damn sight better than McCain or Romney.
So (metaphorically) build your armaments, gather your forces, keep your powder dry, and await the dawn. By the holidays of 2012, the liberals in this country are going to be standing around their little union halls, and movie studios scratching their collective heads, wondering how their little tin messiah could have gone down in flames so badly.
General Allenby: ‘Rubbish...Rubbish and nerves, you’re tired.’
—Lawrence of Arabia
Your wrong. I AM THE TEA PARTY AND I WILL NEVER QUIT OR LOSE FAITH. I just attended my first Tea Party meeting last week; there were only 28 of us at that meeting, it was our first, but out of a county population of just 18000 I think that is pretty good. I have paid attention to the movement since it started, but only recently found meetings that were close enough to attend. I live in the middle of nowhere.
I have already started to gather signatures in the town where I do my business ( pop. 1200 ) and have already sent 16 signatures to Sacramento; with more to be had this week, to reverse the travesty that redistricting has done to my county. Now that I am meeting with like minded people and getting more information on my area (I am pretty new here) I will continue to work for those elected officials and potential candidates that share my views and values.
I have always been politically active in what ever area I have lived in and will continue to do so.
28 does not sound like many people, but as I meet and talk to more and more people we will continue grow, even if only one or two people at a time. We will attend the supervisors meetings, the water board meetings, the council meetings, the Forrest Service and EPA meetings in our area, and our voices will be heard. Consider the number of people who actually get involved in their local government and you will realize that a dedicated few can make a difference. I don’t believe we will be just a few for very long; the people that are my neighbors and that live in this county do not like being pushed, and the politicians have been pushing for way to long.
TARP worked. The banking system didn't collapse and the banks paid back the loans. With interest, at a profit to the Treasury.
I agree with every single word you said. Well done!
It just came to my attention that there is no TEA party group in our county in southeast Ohio (we just moved here over the summer). I have been tossing around the idea of seeing what it would take to get things going for one around here. Now I need something else to do like I need a hole in the head. I’m involved in PTO for two schools, Right to Life group in our county, book club, gearing up to lead a Brownie troop, and I’m the mom of 4 kids from ages 13 down to 4 years old (and all the extracurricular and school activities that entails). We just moved into an older house on 2 acres that needs some TLC before the winter comes because it gets a little chilly living on the Ohio River. However, the future of my kids (and our nation’s kids) is at stake and I’ll be damned (pardon my French) if I sit around and whine about what someone else is going to do about it.
Yeah, I know most FReepers have jobs and responsibilities, but there’s something we can all do—even if it’s just educating our friends and relatives about the issues in day-to-day conversations. My husband does that all the time. We talk to our oldest about what’s going on in the world because she will be out in that world in the next five years. She understands more than we thought, and more than your average liberal. In our younger kids, we have been preaching hard on responsibility lately, because it’s something that’s sorely lacking in our world. They’re still a little young to understand the bigger picture, but we’re hoping that instilling the core values that our nation was founded on gears them up for the years ahead. We take them to Mass each week, pray at the dinner table, and make sure there are consequences for their actions when needed.
The point of all that I just said was when I see people whining about what the TEA party is doing, it astounds me. Just because we’re not hanging out protesting all the time doesn’t mean we’re silent. We’re the ones working behind the scenes and we speak up by our day-to-day actions, enhanced by using our God-given right to speak out when we have to.
Precisely! I saw one video of an OWS protester who said that he used to be a Tea Partyer but that the Tea Party forgot what they were about -- they used to be about issues and now they are just about being a Republican.
The point isn't Ron Paul, the point is that why haven't the Tea Partyers demanded that all their popular primary candidates stand for the same values that the Tea Party fought for -- and against? Instead, Tea Partyers have been hooked back up to the same old GOP bankster/corporatist insiders plow again and don't even realize it, just because those candidates mouth some of the right rhetoric.
"TARP worked" for who?
The banks got bailed out so the banks felt no pressure to renegotiate with homeowners -- as they would have had to if there had been no bailout. Instead thousands of homeowners lost their jobs and their homes. Further, smart and conservative banks like Wells Fargo who never got themselves into this mess, got thrown into the same pool with their reckless counterparts. The banks have been sitting on the money and not loaning it out, so only the banks benefited from TARP which allowed them to still reap the profits and socialize the losses.
You are using the same argument of "but they ultimately paid it back" as Obama uses for the bailouts --as though it is supposed to vindicate the action that should have never been taken in the first place.
The banking system is collapsing worldwide (including our own) as we speak.
How did TARP do anything but delay the collapse?
TARP (and subsequent bailouts) are a huge tarp that we swept problems under, temporarily ... it didn’t solve any problems. Any time it may have bought us to solve underlying problems hasn’t been used to do so.
For the banking system and all who benefit from it. That'd be all of us, in case you were unsure.
The banks got bailed out
If by bailed out you mean they received loans, at a kinda steep rate, to temporarily shore up their capital, I agree.
If you mean they received handouts, I'm gonna have to disagree.
so the banks felt no pressure to renegotiate with homeowners -- as they would have had to if there had been no bailout.
They would have agreed to further erode their capital by writing down more loans faster? Then the banking system really would have collapsed.
Further, smart and conservative banks like Wells Fargo who never got themselves into this mess, got thrown into the same pool with their reckless counterparts.
Yes, that's what happens during a panic, the good get hurt as well. Even the best bank can't survive a run, without help.
The banks have been sitting on the money and not loaning it out,
They were bashed for being too big, making too many bad loans and told to increase their capital. By not making new loans, they shrink. No new loans means no new bad loans. No new loans helps their capital ratios.
so only the banks benefited from TARP which allowed them to still reap the profits and socialize the losses.
Socialize the losses? The only socialized losses I see are Fannie and Freddie.....and the loans to the automakers that'll never be repaid in full.
You are using the same argument of "but they ultimately paid it back"
I only make that argument to those who think TARP was a gift, never to be repaid.
Our banks are healthier than the ones in Europe.
The underlying problem is bloated government.
Bless you, that was well said. It’s my hope they’re scratching something besides their heads. . .
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