Glenn Beck: NYT runs one of the most “bigoted” “anti-religon” articles EVER

I respect yours too — you’ve put your point across calmly and coolly and I think even our Mormon friends should acknowledge that.

And risk - shudder - the Spirit of Apostacy!!!???

#4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?
Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators?
Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

#7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

(Temple Recommend Questions)

161 posted on 10/25/2011 10:20:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

If you get off talking tough on the internet, fine. You don’t sound very “religious” to me, more like some old fool with mental problems. Religious bigotry seems right up your alley. Call me some more stupid names and feel big.

162 posted on 10/25/2011 12:07:18 PM PDT by ozzymandus

A president who puts the Constitution first is more important than one who wears his religion, or lack thereof, on his/her sleeve for votes.
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Then you better not vote for the Mormon Romney...

Not only did he get 90+% of the vote in Mormon Utah, but he would have to run all his decisions passed the Mormon leaders in SLC just as the Mormon gov in Utah and the state senate and legislature does...

SLC gets to look at at every bill...

The US Constitution is not a consideration to a Mo0rmon...

Never has been right from the start...

What ever gave you the idea it might be ???

163 posted on 10/25/2011 12:32:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

You don’t sound very “religious” to me, more like some old fool with mental problems.

Dealing with youngsters with attitude problems will do that to a person.

164 posted on 10/25/2011 4:37:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

I never posted anything to you, but feel free to butt in.

165 posted on 10/25/2011 8:17:34 PM PDT by ozzymandus

To: Tennessee Nana

“The US Constitution is not a consideration to a Mo0rmon...”

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is filled with patriotic Constitution loving members. I have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.

If you switch the word “Mormon” with “Catholic” you would have the exact same kind of negative hateful rhetoric used against JFK when he ran for the presidency. About one million Americans adamently REFUSED to vote for JFK because he was a Catholic who would take his direction straight from the Pope.

Come on, people.

166 posted on 10/27/2011 6:44:43 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)

To: Saundra Duffy

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is filled with patriotic Constitution loving members.
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Gosh now..

Just who were that bunch who ran around in a pack with Joey Smith because they hated the Constitution, America and her laws, and wanted their own country and to be left alone to live their corrupt unlawful lives ???

From New Yor4k to Ohio to Missouri to Illinois to Utah territory...

One step in fr5ont of the US law...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No “patriotic Constitution loving members” there...

They even had their own crowned king, Joey himself, their own town, their own army and their own set of laws...

and “king” Joey Smith was running for POTUS from their own political party in order to take over the country with the 100,000 strong army he wanted the US congreess to pay for...

Joey Smith wanted to make our country a theocratic dictorship with him as king...

Later the Mormons got their wish in Utah where Briggie Joung in his turn crowned hiomself king and was dictator for 30 years...

The Constitution of the United states does not recognize a king as leader of our country...

167 posted on 10/27/2011 8:43:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)

To: Saundra Duffy

If you switch the word “Mormon” with “Catholic” you would have the exact same kind of negative hateful rhetoric used against JFK when he ran for the presidency.
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No doubt many of those who used “negative hateful rhetoric used against JFK” were Mormons...

Mormons have “negative hateful rhetoric” against Catholics and other Chriustians in their doctrines...

“whore of Babylon” and “the great corrupt, ecclesiastical power” and “the church of the devil” comes to mind...

168 posted on 10/27/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)

To: Saundra Duffy

About one million Americans adamently REFUSED to vote for JFK because he was a Catholic who would take his direction straight from the Pope.
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Was there really “about one million” Mormons in America in 1960 ???

Because in 1960 the Mormons were still promising to slit their own throats and embowel themselves in their pagan corrupted Freemason rituals...

Plus the racist bigotted Mormons would have also been mad at Kennedy because he want ed blacks to have equal rights...

Yes there was several reasons the Mormons would have refused lock step to vote for Kennedy...

169 posted on 10/27/2011 8:54:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

A paraprase of what Voltaire said...

170 posted on 10/27/2011 8:57:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)

To: Saundra Duffy

If you switch the word “Mormon” with “Catholic”
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Why on Earth would I ever do that ???

The Mormon religion is nothing like Christianity...

171 posted on 10/27/2011 8:58:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)

To: Ripliancum; livius; ozzymandus; 9YearLurker; Cronos; Scoutmaster; Salvation; Saundra Duffy; ...

Educate yourself. In my 40 plus years in the LDS church, I've never heard taught that we will all be gods of our own planets. That's a talking point of the evangelical opposition to the Church. [Mormon poster Ripliancum to Livius]

If you are one of the over 30 FREEPERS getting a ping to this post (not counting a few extra FI I pinged), that means you posted on this thread and you get to see firsthand how a Mormon apologist goes about obscuring true historical/theological information about their religion.

Notice Ripliancum's scolding of Livius:
He uses personal anedotalism to project to what all lds leaders have said about this matter -- re: Will Mormon grown-up people-gods be gods of their own planets?

Rip sandwiches that anecdotalism around a "scold" ("Educate yourself") and wraps it up with an implication that Evangelicals are lying/exaggerating/fill-in-the-blank -- all for the supposed purpose of talking-point agendas.

Now let's compare what Ripliancum, the Mormon apologist says, to what one of his religion's ultimate authorities...the 10th "Prophet" of the Mormon church, Joseph Fielding Smith, said on this exact matter:

“To become like him we must have ALL the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an EARTH LIKE THIS ONE WE ARE ON and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WORLDS, AND THESE WORLDS WILL BE PEOPLED BY OUR OWN OFFSPRING. WE WILL HAVE AN ENDLESS ETERNITY FOR THIS."
Source: Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:48, as cited by The Mormon Church’s annual Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, 1978-79, p. 131

Another Mormon "prophet," the nephew of Joseph Smith, in a 1971 book published by the highest-ranking publishing house in the Mormon church -- The First Presidency -- labeled such female goddesses as "anointed queens" who would "be the mothers of spirits" (Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine 2:257). The Mormon church officially sanctioned this book in another of their published books in 1996.

May I suggest, Livius, that you request an "apology" from Ripliancum over his distortion? And, Rip, as an Evangelical, I request you apologize to us as a group for reducing this to a "talking point" status. I own the 5-book Joseph Fielding Smith DOS series. Unlike Mormons like yourself, I can read for myself, Rip. Unlike your assumptions about us, I don't have to borrow "talking points" exchanged from one Christian to another.

And unlike far too many Mormons who fail to read what Christian authors write, I actually bother to read what Mormon leaders have written.

ALL: We don't know if Ripliancum was distorting this due to...
(a) Simple Ignorance
(b) Or something more willful [if (b), that means this Mormon -- Ripliancum -- either has tossed Joseph Fielding Smith under the bus as a "prophet" in knowing ANYTHING what he was talking about re: the other world or worlds, or perhaps Rip just 100% closes his ears to what his general authorities have to say at two general conferences each year...'cause NONE of what they say is "canonized" Mormon "scripture," either!]

Rip, are you going to come clean on this? Or will you make this a pivotal point where your credibility goes under and won't resurface on this forum?

172 posted on 10/28/2011 4:15:07 PM PDT by Colofornian (When Lds cite 175 yo quotes, that's "spiritual" talk; when YOU cite 'em, LDS go 'calendar' on YOU)

To: Colofornian; All

173 posted on 10/28/2011 4:22:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)

We are getting first-hand illustration of ther mormonism for of classic Islamic taqqiya don’tchaknow.

174 posted on 10/28/2011 4:30:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)

To: Colofornian; Ripliancum

Mormons have many gods, including but not limited to baal, a graven image of whom can be seen below at the Nauvoo Temple, and Jupiter (satan) which can be found on the talisman carried by Joseph Smith when he was killed.

Care to try to spin your own scripture Rip ?

FLDS/RLDS/LDS Book of Abraham Chapter 4:

1 And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the aGods, borganized and formed the cheavens and the earth. 2 And the earth, after it was formed, was empty and desolate, because they had not formed anything but the earth; and adarkness reigned upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of the Gods was brooding upon the face of the waters.

3 And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light; and there was light.

4 And they (the Gods) comprehended the light, for it was bright; and they divided the light, or caused it to be divided, from the darkness.

5 And the Gods called the light Day, and the darkness they called Night. And it came to pass that from the evening until morning they called night; and from the morning until the evening they called day; and this was the first, or the beginning, of that which they called day and night.

6 And the Gods also said: Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and it shall divide the waters from the waters.

7 And the Gods ordered the expanse, so that it divided the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so, even as they ordered.

8 And the Gods called the expanse, Heaven. And it came to pass that it was from evening until morning that they called night; and it came to pass that it was from morning until evening that they called day; and this was the second atime that they called night and day.

9 And the Gods ordered, saying: Let the awaters under the heaven be gathered together unto bone place, and let the earth come up dry; and it was so as they ordered;

10 And the Gods pronounced the dry land, Earth; and the gathering together of the waters, pronounced they, Great Waters; and the Gods saw that they were obeyed.

11 And the Gods said: Let us prepare the earth to bring forth grass; the herb yielding seed; the fruit tree yielding fruit, after his kind, whose seed in itself yieldeth its own likeness upon the earth; and it was so, even as they ordered.

12 And the Gods organized the earth to bring forth grass from its own seed, and the herb to bring forth herb from its own seed, yielding seed after his kind; and the earth to bring forth the tree from its own seed, yielding fruit, whose seed could only bring forth the same in itself, after his kind; and the Gods saw that they were obeyed.

13 And it came to pass that they numbered the days; from the evening until the morning they called night; and it came to pass, from the morning until the evening they called day; and it was the third time.

14 And the Gods organized the lights in the expanse of the heaven, and caused them to divide the day from the night; and organized them to be for signs and for seasons, and for days and for years;

15 And organized them to be for lights in the expanse of the heaven to give light upon the earth; and it was so.

16 And the Gods organized the two great lights, the agreater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; with the lesser light they set the stars also;

17 And the Gods set them in the expanse of the heavens, to give light upon the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to cause to divide the light from the adarkness.

18 And the Gods watched those things which they had aordered until they obeyed.

19 And it came to pass that it was from evening until morning that it was night; and it came to pass that it was from morning until evening that it was day; and it was the fourth time.

20 And the Gods said: Let us prepare the waters to bring forth abundantly the moving creatures that have life; and the fowl, that they may fly above the earth in the open expanse of heaven.

21 And the Gods prepared the waters that they might bring forth great awhales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters were to bring forth abundantly after their kind; and every winged fowl after their kind. And the Gods saw that they would be obeyed, and that their plan was good.

22 And the Gods said: We will bless them, and cause them to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas or agreat waters; and cause the fowl to multiply in the earth.

23 And it came to pass that it was from evening until morning that they called night; and it came to pass that it was from morning until evening that they called day; and it was the fifth time.

24 And the Gods prepared the earth to bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after their kind; and it was so, as they had said.

25 And the Gods organized the earth to bring forth the beasts after their kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after its kind; and the Gods saw they would obey.

26 And the Gods took acounsel among themselves and said: Let us go down and bform man in our cimage, after our likeness; and we will give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So the Gods went down to organize man in their own bimage, in the image of the Gods to form they him, male and female to form they them.

28 And the Gods said: We will bless them. And the Gods said: We will cause them to be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and to have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And the Gods said: Behold, we will give them every herb bearing seed that shall come upon the face of all the earth, and every tree which shall have fruit upon it; yea, the fruit of the tree yielding seed to them we will give it; it shall be for their meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, behold, we will give them life, and also we will give to them every green herb for meat, and all these things shall be thus organized.

31 And the Gods said: We will do everything that we have said, and organize them; and behold, they shall be very obedient. And it came to pass that it was from evening until morning they called night; and it came to pass that it was from morning until evening that they called day; and they numbered the sixth time.

..........

175 posted on 10/28/2011 4:30:58 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)

Not sure why you pinged me. Is this all you do every single day of your life?

Surely you know that the many early Christian fathers believed & taught the doctrine of deification, right? So, the Mormons teach what early Christians taught for centuries, & even some contemporaries such as C.S. Lewis. What’s your point? That you’re more scholarly than those theologians?

I don’t know, but it seems you need to get out more.

176 posted on 10/28/2011 5:06:44 PM PDT by Confab

To: driftdiver; Colofornian; All

Oh shut up

I'm sorry, but I know that Colofornian can only please one person per day - and today is not your day drifty. Tomorrow isn't looking good for you either.

177 posted on 10/28/2011 5:07:43 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)

To: Godzilla; All

Did I rattle my zipper?

You and him are hijacking the thread with your putrid comments.

178 posted on 10/28/2011 5:29:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)

Did I rattle my zipper? You and him are hijacking the thread with your putrid comments.

Keep talking, some day you'll say something intelligent. Today was not that day.

179 posted on 10/28/2011 5:33:03 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)

You are hardly the judge that I’m worried about. so take a hike sport

This thread is about Glenn Beck, not you.

180 posted on 10/28/2011 5:39:13 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)

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