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In Debt Up To Our Eyeballs (Kyle Bass Has 20 Million Nickels)
TEC ^ | 10-18-2011

Posted on 10/18/2011 11:14:28 AM PDT by blam

In Debt Up To Our Eyeballs

October 18, 2011

The entire financial system of the western world is designed to be a debt spiral. The total amount of money and and the total amount of debt are supposed to continually expand. Today, we are in debt up to our eyeballs and it seems like nearly everyone is talking about "deleveraging" and reducing government debt. But in a world where the entire financial system is based on debt, is there any way for massive deleveraging to take place without plunging us all into a horrific worldwide depression?
The governments of the western world have had a lot of fun spending money as if there was no tomorrow, but now tomorrow has arrived and all of that debt is rapidly catching up with us. Politicians in Europe and in the United States are running around trying to come up with a "plan", but there is no "plan" that is going to fix the current debt-based system. Over the next few years we are going to reap what we have sown.

For fiscal year 2011, the U.S. federal government had a budget deficit of nearly 1.3 trillion dollars. That was the third year in a row that our budget deficit has topped a trillion dollars.

Sadly, most Americans simply have no idea how much money a trillion dollars is.

Perhaps an illustration or two would help.

If on the day when Jesus was born you began spending one million dollars every single day, you still would not have spent one trillion dollars by now.

That is how large a trillion dollars is.

If you went out today and started spending one dollar every single second, it would take you over 31,000 years to spend one trillion dollars.

Some people have suggested that we could solve our problems by taxing the rich.

Well, if Bill Gates gave every single penny of his fortune to the U.S. government, it would only cover the U.S. budget deficit for about 15 days.

No, the truth is that what we have is a spending problem.

The U.S. federal government is spending way, way too much money. Total U.S. government debt will soon cross the 15 trillion dollar mark.

Should we do something to celebrate such a monumental national achievement?

It really takes a special effort to borrow 15 trillion dollars.

We have accumulated the largest mountain of debt in the history of the world, and yet our government continues to add to our debt at a blistering pace.

If the federal government began right at this moment to repay the U.S. national debt at a rate of one dollar per second, it would take over 440,000 years to pay off the national debt.

Unfortunately, we are not paying it off right now. Instead, we are adding even more to it.

Back in the early 1980s, Ronald Reagan declared the national debt to be a national crisis.

Well, today our national debt is more than 14 times larger than it was when Reagan took office.

Something has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

Right now, spending by the federal government accounts for about 24 percent of GDP. Back in 2001, it accounted for just 18 percent.

Spending is going in the wrong direction.

And most government spending goes into the pockets of individual Americans.

59 percent of all Americans now receive money from the federal government in one form or another.

We have got tens of millions of Americans that are completely and totally addicted to getting money from the federal government.

But wasn't the Tea Party supposed to do something about all of this crazy government spending?

Unfortunately, the Tea Party has failed in this area. In the mainstream media there is talk of "austerity" by the federal government, but the truth is that spending by the federal government has increased by about 5 percent so far this year.

We are hurtling toward a "debt wall" and the brakes don't seem to work.

Europe is in a massive amount of debt trouble as well. In fact, a financial meltdown is probably going to happen in Europe before it happens in the United States.

Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Italy all have debt to GDP ratios that are well above 100%. Spain is in a massive amount of trouble as well.

Right now, Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain owe the rest of the world about 3 trillion euros combined.

Greece is on the verge of a default of one form or another, and Italy and Portugal look like they will not be far behind.

As the financial world braces for a Greek default, the yields on Greek bonds are going absolutely crazy. The yield on 2 year Greek bonds is now over 70 percent. The yield on 1 year Greek bonds is now over 170 percent.

Sadly, it looks like Portuguese bonds are starting to go down the same path. The yield on 2 year Portuguese bonds is now over 17 percent. A year ago the yield on those bonds was about 4 percent.

European banks are also drowning in an ocean of debt.

According to renowned financial journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, banks in Europe need to reduce the amount of lending on their books by about 7 trillion dollars in order to get down to safe levels....

Europe’s banks face a $7 trillion lending contraction to bring their balance sheets in line with the US and Japan, threatening to trap the region in a credit crunch and chronic depression for a decade.

But can that be done safely?

Can that be done without plunging Europe into a financial nightmare?

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is skeptical....

The risk is "Japanisation" without the benefits of Japan: without a single government, or a trade super-surplus, or 1pc debt costs, or unique social cohesion.

Already the financial crisis in Europe has pushed unemployment to frightening levels. So what will happen if you add massive deleveraging to the equation? Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is very concerned about what might happen in some of the most troubled nations....

Even today, the jobless rate for youth is near 10pc in Japan. It is already 46pc in Spain, 43pc in Greece, 32pc in Ireland, and 27pc in Italy. We will discover over time what yet more debt deleveraging will do to these societies.

Major European banks not only have too many loans on their books - they have also borrowed way, way too much money themselves.

The truth is that most major European banks are leveraged to the hilt and are massively exposed to sovereign debt. Before it fell in 2008, Lehman Brothers was leveraged 31 to 1. Today, major German banks are leveraged 32 to 1, and those banks are currently holding a massive amount of European sovereign debt.

What all of this means is that we are on the verge of some really bad stuff.

The governments of the world are up to their eyeballs in debt. According to the Economist, the governments of the world combined are more than 40 trillion dollars in debt. But that total only counts government debt held by the public and it does not include any future obligations (such as Social Security, etc.) owed by national governments.

It would be hard to understate how much of a crisis this is.

But just like with the subprime mortgage meltdown of a few years ago, a number of very savvy investors and economists can see what is coming.

For example, Texas investor Kyle Bass made millions and millions of dollars betting against subprime mortgages, and now he is warning that we are facing a crisis much greater than that.

Bass believes that the European debt crisis is soon going to explode. In particular, he has been putting his money into investments that will pay off big if Greek debt collapses.

But that is not all Bass has been up to. He has been stockpiling gold, guns and nickels (20 million nickels to be exact).

Bass appears to be well prepared for the coming economic collapse. The following is how one writer described his visit to the 40,000 square foot "fort" owned by Bass....

"We hopped into his Hummer, decorated with bumper stickers (God Bless Our Troops, Especially Our Snipers) and customized to maximize the amount of fun its owner could have in it: for instance, he could press a button and, James Bond–like, coat the road behind him in giant tacks. We roared out into the Texas hill country, where, with the fortune he’d made off the subprime crisis, Kyle Bass had purchased what amounted to a fort: a forty-thousand-square-foot ranch house on thousands of acres in the middle of nowhere, with its own water supply, and an arsenal of automatic weapons and sniper rifles and small explosives to equip a battalion."

If only the rest of us were so well prepared, eh?

So if this is the kind of thing that the "financial experts" are doing, then what is the message for us?

A great storm is coming, and most Americans are going to be totally unprepared for it.

Not that things are not really, really bad already.

According to Shadow Government Statistics, the "real" rate of unemployment in the United States is creeping up toward 25 percent.

So what is going to happen if a worldwide depression hits?

Things could get very, very interesting over the next few years.

A significant percentage of Americans have already lost faith in the system. According to a new Gallup poll, 44 percent of all Americans say that our economic system is "unfair" to them on a personal level.

But sadly, most Americans don't really understand the mechanics of our financial system.

They don't understand what actually makes it unfair.

That is why we need to work so hard to educate the American people about the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve system is at the very heart of our financial system, and it was designed to get the U.S. government perpetually enslaved to debt.

At this point, the U.S. national debt is 4700 times larger than it was when the Federal Reserve was created back in 1913.

It looks like the creators of the Federal Reserve achieved their goal.

Posted below is a cartoon that was published one year before the creation of the Federal Reserve. The intent of this cartoon was to criticize the "Aldrich plan" which was a precursor to the plan to create the Federal Reserve.

As you can see below, the creator of this cartoon had a good idea of what would happen if the plan put forward by Rhode Island Senator Nelson Aldrich was adopted.

Today, the Federal Reserve totally dominates our financial system just like this cartoon once warned would happen if we allowed a central bank to control our money....



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; collapse; debt; dollarcollapse; economy; getreadyhereitcomes; preparedness; prepperping; shtf; survival; survivalism; survivalping; thecomingdarkness
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To: Lurker
We’ve defaulted several times in U.S. History, it’s time to do it again.

Can you give me some documentation on that? Thanks.

It depends on one's definition of "default".Fearing (Another) U.S. Debt Default

21 posted on 10/18/2011 1:50:24 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: Lurker
More info.

US Has Defaulted Before

Thursday, July 28th, 2011 by George Bragues posted in Economics, History, Politics.

The idea that the US cannot possibly default, at least in the sense of not being able to pay its debt obligations, is universally held. It helps explain why yields on US government bonds are so low despite its public debt having reached an eye-popping 96% of GDP. But is it true that the US cannot really default?

According to Richard Salsman, president of InterMarket Forecasting, it’s not. One key reason why not is America’s track record. The US has effectively defaulted before. The operative word here is “effectively”, as the US has never formally declared that it was defaulting on its debt. But if a country’s government takes steps to dramatically reduce the value of its currency and then use this cheapened money to pay the nominal amounts it owes, it has ”effectively” defaulted. Creditors end up with less purchasing power than they originally lent.

As excerpted in the op-ed page of today’s Financial Post, such inflationary restructuring of debt has occurred at least three times in US history:

1. The 1861-1865 Civil War during which greenbacks were issued.

2. In 1933, when the Roosevelt administration passed an executive order that revoked clauses in bond contracts allowing creditors to demand payment in gold.

3. The coup de grace that US President Nixon gave to Bretton Woods when he broke the last tie between the US dollar and gold. This allowed the US government to freely print money. The consequence, as Salsman points out, is that the rate of return on US bonds was -56% from 1965 to 1981.

That negative performance is something to think about if one happens to be pondering an investment in US government bonds.

22 posted on 10/18/2011 1:55:37 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: Lurker
One last article.

Has the United States Ever Defaulted on Its Debt?

Excerpt:

Reinhart and Rogoff give four examples of US defaults/restructurings.

Let’s run through each of them.

The 1790 Default. Shortly after the formation of the first United States federal government under the Constitution of 1787, Congress passed and President Washington signed the Funding Act of 1790. This act directed the Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, to assume the Revolutionary War debts of the states, allowing creditors to exchange the state-backed war debt with bonds issued by the US Treasury. The interest on the bonds was deferred until 1801. A total of $21.5 million dollars was assumed.

Prior to the passage of the Funding Act, much of the debt was expected to default. It traded at deep discounts to face value. Once the act was passed, the value of the debt skyrocketed—because bondholders were sure they would be repaid by the new federal government. In fact, quite a lot of money was made by people who bought the state debt in anticipation of the Funding Act or with early notice that it had passed. Even at the time of the Founding, traders were profiting from informational asymmetries.

The Act also provided that the debt securities issued by the Confederation government that existed prior to the federal government would be converted into new federal bonds. The interest on one third of the value of the converted bonds was deferred until 1801.

So why is this described as a default by Reinhart and Rogoff? It’s pretty clear that the federal government was not defaulting on its own obligations. Instead, it was modifying obligations incurred by the states—either directly or through the Confederation—and assuming them.

This was almost the opposite of a default, since it made payment much more likely. That’s why the bonds rallied after the passage of the act.

The 1841-1842 Defaults. This was actually a series of defaults by nine state governments, including three states that repudiated their debt altogether. The federal government was not involved.

The 1873-1884 Defaults. Another series of defaults by states and cities. In total 10 states defaulted. West Virginia, the worst of the state financial basket cases, was still working out its debt with creditors by 1918. There wasn’t a federal government default, however.

The 1933 Default. In the summer of 1933, Congress passed the “Joint Resolution to Assure Uniform Value to the Coins and Currencies of the United States” which declared invalid and provisions of obligations of the federal government which were “purported” to give the creditor the right to require repayment in gold. The Roosevelt administration wanted to depreciate the paper currency, and thought the “gold clauses” contained in various bonds were an obstacle.

This is arguably the closest the US government came to defaulting. But this is more like monetizing debt than defaulting. It is closer to having the Federal Reserve inflate our way out of debt than what Rep. Ryan is proposing.

So no history of defaults?

To be fair to Reinhart and Rogoff, they don’t describe these as pure defaults—but as instances of defaults and restructuring. In this paper, they give more details on them.

It’s just not correct to say that the US is a serial defaulter—or to imply that we can predict the consequences of a default now based on past defaults. We just don’t have any historical data to tell us what would happen.

23 posted on 10/18/2011 2:03:54 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: blam
Well, today our national debt is more than 14 times larger than it was when Reagan took office.

My paycheck hasn't increased 14x but big government's has and then some.

24 posted on 10/18/2011 2:08:19 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: blam

That’s a pretty awesome cartoon.

It’s time to fuel up the escape pod, children. Stand by for heavy rolls.


25 posted on 10/18/2011 2:41:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Vendome; blam
You may be in the situation of "profitably uloading" them ten or twenty at a time for cans of soup or tuna fish.

When the cost of having no spendable, accepted currency might be starvation.

Is there profit in continued life? I'd say yes.

26 posted on 10/18/2011 2:44:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

True that.

I have considerable amount fungible for trading.

This pile or pallet will need to be sold one day. I knew from JW Rawles to invest in them but I never got around to considering who will buy it and in what quantity.

or I coul melt into bullets if things were that bad.


27 posted on 10/18/2011 3:50:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Call me an optimist, but I think they’ll retain their max value in their present form. As opposed to projectiles.


28 posted on 10/18/2011 3:54:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blam
And in the face of all reason, logic, experience, knowledge, and sensibility: the stock market is once again rising, the great majority of investment professionals believe that economic conditions are improving, and their forecasts for the most part call for sunny skies and following seas.

Except for that tsunami of debt passing swiftly and silently beneath them, they might be right. But debt does not matter, we are told by the experts, for it is merely a monetary social construct whose value is determined not by reference to fixed mathematical standards, but by government fiat. We'll see who is proven right. And soon, I would expect.

29 posted on 10/18/2011 4:11:32 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: blam

Read the comments on your first link. I think I spotted some OWS loser-types...


30 posted on 10/18/2011 4:18:49 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mr B has a new cousin on the way!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
"Read the comments on your first link. I think I spotted some OWS loser-types... "

Yup, I saw that and I think you're correct.

31 posted on 10/18/2011 4:27:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I’m a Gramma. I’m always *gak* right.

;)


32 posted on 10/18/2011 4:44:19 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mr B has a new cousin on the way!)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL. Sure they will.
Just being creative.


33 posted on 10/18/2011 6:29:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lurker

Here is a brief history of the matter (yes it is from a blog, I did an internet search, but feel free to do your own research, if you wish to become more educated on the matter, it has been discussed on several threads here on FR back when the debt ceiling issue was in the news).

http://expectedloss.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-us-has-defaulted-before-and.html


34 posted on 10/18/2011 10:58:54 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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