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Obama’s Choice: Dirty Oil (Keystone XL Oil Pipeline) or Clean Water and Land?
noisyroom.net/blog | 10.17.11 | Syver Alton Larsen and MJ

Posted on 10/17/2011 3:13:50 PM PDT by Whenifhow

One big decision looms ominously on Obama’s horizon and he will not be able to blame anyone but himself for the consequences. Obama must render the momentous verdict by November 1 to give or not to give approval for the historical Keystone XL Pipeline Project. This pipeline will carry one of the world’s dirtiest fuels… tar sand oil… vastly different from regular oil, being ten times heavier than water and very corrosive.

Presidential permission is required because the 2,147-mile pipeline crosses the border between Canada and eight states of the United States. The present route is scheduled to cross prime agriculture heartland, 19,000 square mile wetlands and the world’s largest fresh water aquifer — the Ogallala.

The Keystone XL pipeline would carry 900,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into the United States daily, doubling our country’s reliance on it and resulting in climate-damaging emissions equal to adding more than six million new cars to U.S. roads.

Originally proposed on February 9, 2005, it is still in the making. It began supplying oil to Illinois and Missouri in 2010. Phase II of the project, launched in February 2011, would extend the pipeline from Steele City, Nebraska, to Cushing, Oklahoma — a pivotal crude oil refining and pipeline hub and then on to the Gulf of Mexico.

According to The New American, the new segment of this project is waiting for Obama’s approval, but the Keystone XL is facing fierce opposition from landowners and concerned citizens.

From The New American:

"Though the pipeline has been in operation for almost a year, a new segment of the project, the Keystone Gulf Coast Expansion, also known as Keystone XL — which would originate in Hardisty, Alberta Canada, and run southeast through Montana, South Dakota, and Nebraska, while incorporating Phase II of the pipeline to extend to Oklahoma markets and the Texas Gulf Coast ports of Houston and Port Arthur — is facing formidable hurdles. The Canadian government’s National Energy Board approved the expansion in 2010, but is awaiting final approval from the Obama administration.”

According to the Nebraska Farmers Union, many landowners have been intimidated and threatened with the Right of Eminent Domain. Does a foreign country owned business have that right?

In 2007, Congress passed and President George Bush signed into law, Section 526 which disallows the U.S. purchase of tar sands oil. Congressman Henry Waxman, Chair of the House Energy Committee, wrote to the Senate Commerce Committee in 2008, the law “applies to fuels derived from unconventional petroleum sources such as tar sands which produce significantly higher greenhouse gas emissions than are produced by comparable fuel from conventional sources.”

In the article, it also states that the Canadian government and big oil are working behind the scenes to get section 526 changed.

Quote:

“Meanwhile, the Canadian government has been working behind the scenes to strike Section 526 from the books to clear the way for tar sands extraction. Using Freedom of Information requests, the Pembina Institute and Climate Action Network Canada uncovered a 2008 strategy memo by Canadian Embassy official Hélène Viau which urged U.S. oil lobbyists to send letters to the U.S. Department of Energy and the Department of State to show “concerns with regard to section 526 and argue that oil sands products should not be targeted by this provision,” and to develop “a comprehensive oil sands advocacy strategy to focus on outreach to allies, influencers, legislators, etc.”

And Big Oil lobbyists have taken Viau’s suggestions to heart. Matt Fox, senior vice president of oil sands for ConocoPhillips warned U.S. legislators that Section 526 “could bring [oil sands] development to a screeching halt. You’d have to think twice about oil sands development if your intention was to deliver oil to the lower ’48.”

The debate regarding the Keystone XL involves the economic issues versus environmental issues. The final impact statement was released by the White House in August.

Why Oil Sands Pipeline Is Just Too Risky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f96ea6A22D4

Those who favor the pipeline list these benefits:

1. Making money for states tax revenues 2. Providing jobs 3. Advancing national security by less foreign oil dependence

Those who are against the pipeline submit:

1. Money cannot replace clean water and land 2. Jobs provided will be temporary 3. The U.S. already imports three-fourths of its oil from western sources

Quote from Nebraska Senator Tony Fulton:

“I would be doing a bad job if I didn’t step up and say that I have some concern about the proposed route of this pipeline. If that puts me on the same side as environmentalists, or folks that I don’t typically see eye to eye with, so be it.”

Narrator: Fulton wants TransCanada to re-route the pipeline. He is promoting legislation he hopes would give state government the power to force the company to by-pass the aquifer. He says building this pipeline without the Nebraska’s input is a violation of state’s rights. We ought to have some say as to how that pipeline makes its way through Nebraska. And at this point it has been President Obama, Secretary Clinton and TransCanada who have chosen this route.

Environmentalists site the Enbridge tragic tar sand oil leak in the Kalamazoo River occurring in July 2010, as an example of what will be repeated again. Enbridge, competitor of TransCanada, says that there is no oil remaining in the river. The EPA has estimated that over one million gallons of oil leaked into the Kalamazoo River and has still not been totally cleaned up. Because the tar sand oil is heavier than water, it has sunk down into the river and the only way to remove it is through drudging.

China has actively been investing in Canadian oil and many believe that the true intent of the oil pipeline is to make it easier to ship the oil from Texas ports to Asian markets. The pipeline happens to follow part of the same route as the notorious North American Free Trade Association (NAFTA) Super Highway.

The only thing Obama fears more than the Environmentalists are the Labor Unions. The political reality is that Obama would risk losing the votes and campaign donations of ALL 1.8 million Nebraskans whose lives depend on the Ogallala for clean drinking water and even most of the Environmentalists, but he cannot afford to lose the support of ANY Labor Unions that want the pipeline built at any and all costs for the jobs and tax-base it will generate.

TransCanada has refused to reroute the Keystone from going over the Ogallala, so they are trying to save money with pipeline construction and they are choosing economic concerns over environmental concerns that relate to the aquifer.

Does greed always win in this world?

We will know for sure by November 1, which one Obama will choose… Dirty Oil or Clean Water and Land.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: commodities; economy; environmentalism; epa; globalism; keystonepipeline; oil; statesrights
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Why Oil Sands Pipeline Is Just Too Risky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f96ea6A22D4

1 posted on 10/17/2011 3:13:59 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Here’s the article link
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/10/17/obama%E2%80%99s-choice-dirty-oil-keystone-xl-oil-pipeline-or-clean-water-and-land/

Why Oil Sands Pipeline Is Just Too Risky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f96ea6A22D4


2 posted on 10/17/2011 3:16:26 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Probably more pseudo-science lies, like global warming. I will never believe anything from the so-called environmentalsts.


3 posted on 10/17/2011 3:17:55 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Whenifhow

If we were to drill here and drill now, build refineries and nuke plants we would not need long pipe lines and such. I could not get beyond the biased first paragraph.


4 posted on 10/17/2011 3:19:09 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: mountainlion

If you had read a little further, you would have seen:

China has actively been investing in Canadian oil and many believe that the true intent of the oil pipeline is to make it easier to ship the oil from Texas ports to Asian markets. The pipeline happens to follow part of the same route as the notorious North American Free Trade Association (NAFTA) Super Highway.

This oil is going to China!


5 posted on 10/17/2011 3:21:44 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
I misread that Diesel was the dirtiest fuel somehow. I finally got through a long article on Forbes on Obama and did not get started right on this one. OOPs.

I still support drill here drill now.

6 posted on 10/17/2011 3:27:02 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Whenifhow
The oil sands will be developed to their fullest extent. A pipeline will be built to bring the oil sands to market, end of story.

Whether that pipeline runs into the US or across the Rockies to fill tankers headed to Asia (China) is up to Obama.

7 posted on 10/17/2011 3:29:20 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-The government gets rich, you get poor.)
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To: Whenifhow
This oil is going to China!

If so, a pipeline to the Gulf coast a mighty strange route to choose. Why not build a pipeline to the Pacific coast, a much more direct route to Chinese ports?

8 posted on 10/17/2011 3:30:23 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Whenifhow

Why are these always posed as “either/or” choices ? Why not process the oil in ND ? Or don’t the residents of that fair state deserve some benefit from the “boom” ? There’s ample reason to create more refining capacity in that region as it, too, has vast oil reserves just now being tapped. >PS


9 posted on 10/17/2011 3:34:08 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Whenifhow

Nope, wrong. Although the oil will go to China if the US doesn’t want it.


10 posted on 10/17/2011 3:43:27 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-The government gets rich, you get poor.)
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To: Whenifhow

Too risky for what? Your Liberal, brainwashed, sorry outlook?


11 posted on 10/17/2011 3:50:54 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
[In 2007, Congress passed and President George Bush signed into law, Section 526 which disallows the U.S. purchase of tar sands oil.]

Thanks to Bush, the low grade crude with a high sulfur content cannot be refined in the USA, which is why it is being sent to the Gulf of Mexico for shipping overseas. The USA exports a large portion of it's own low grade crude to other countries also. (Too much oil). This pipe line will also carry low grade USA crude, I am sure.

This is completely stupid!

12 posted on 10/17/2011 3:59:38 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

This guy does not have a clue.


13 posted on 10/17/2011 4:31:44 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: Whenifhow

You should do more homework before you post. Your information is typical enviro crap. A lot a work has been done to clean the process up, see below. Also if we don’t take take the pipeline to Texas it’s going to the West Coast.

A new technology being developed by a Calgary company could address one of the biggest problems of the oilsands.
A new technology being developed by a Calgary company could address one of the biggest problems of the oilsands: high water usage.
Petrobank Energy and Resources’ process recently passed a significant hurdle, validating a technology its backers say will not only get out more oil, but also have a smaller environmental footprint.
Last week, independent engineering consultants McDaniel & Associates, in the first comprehensive evaluation of the technology, concluded that Petrobank is, in its words, “successfully proving” Toe to Heel Air Injection (THAI).


14 posted on 10/17/2011 4:38:47 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: Bernard Marx

Why not build a pipeline to the Pacific coast, a much more direct route to Chinese ports?

Bingo......that’s exactly what happens if we turn the thing down. This artile is poster is for crap.


15 posted on 10/17/2011 4:42:16 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: Whenifhow

“Obama’s Choice: Dirty Oil (Keystone XL Oil Pipeline) or Clean Water and Land?”

Or.......walking or horse instead of automobile.


16 posted on 10/17/2011 4:44:04 PM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Whenifhow
"This pipeline will carry one of the world’s dirtiest fuels… tar sand oil… vastly different from regular oil, being ten times heavier than water and very corrosive...the true intent of the oil pipeline is to make it easier to ship the oil from Texas ports to Asian markets...This oil is going to China!"

LOL! BTW, there's a great deal on vacations to Venus. Don't miss out!


17 posted on 10/17/2011 4:45:38 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: Whenifhow
China has actively been investing in Canadian oil and many believe that the true intent of the oil pipeline is to make it easier to ship the oil from Texas ports to Asian markets. The pipeline happens to follow part of the same route as the notorious North American Free Trade Association (NAFTA) Super Highway. This oil is going to China!

Really. From a Texas port a tanker has to take the long way around to get to China. Why would they do such a stupid thing when they HAVE a pipeline to Vancouver, from which tankers can get to China the short way?

You have it exactly backwards. The opposition to the pipeline is most likely FROM CHINA, because THEY want to be the major customers for the oil.

18 posted on 10/17/2011 4:47:43 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Recon Dad
Thanks for weighing in on this. I get tired of the nonsense.

Realistically, this might be a seminal moment. If Obama turns this down, it will be perfectly evident what he is up to.

19 posted on 10/17/2011 4:54:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-The government gets rich, you get poor.)
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To: Whenifhow

BTTT


20 posted on 10/17/2011 5:26:29 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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