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Steve Jobs Was Not God
Gawker ^ | 10/7/2011 | Hamilton Nolan

Posted on 10/07/2011 1:30:39 PM PDT by toma29

Steve Jobs is dead. A tech genius has passed on. Sad. Certainly a devastating loss to Steve Jobs' close friends and family members, as well as to Apple executives and shareholders. The rest of you? Calm down.

Among my Facebook friends yesterday, more than one wrote publicly that they were "crying" or "can't stop crying" or "teared up" due to Steve Jobs' death. Really now. You can't stop crying, now that you've heard that a middle-aged CEO has passed, after a long battle with cancer? If humans were always so empathetic, well, that would be understandable. But this type of one-upmanship of public displays of grief is both unbecoming and undeserved.

Real outpourings of public grief should be reserved for those people who lived life so heroically and selflessly that they stand as shining examples of love for all of humanity. People like, for example, the Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, who—along with his family—was bombed, beaten, and stabbed during his years of principled activism in the US civil rights movement. Shuttlesworth died yesterday, the same day as Steve Jobs. He did not die a billionaire.

Death, of course, is not a competition. All deaths are sad for the living. Everyone deserves to be mourned, and well-known people will inevitably be mourned more loudly than others. But it is actually important to keep our grief in perspective. When we start mourning technocrats as idols, we cheapen the lives of those who have sacrificed more for their fellow man.

Steve Jobs was great at what he did. There's no need to further fellate the man's memory. He made good computers, he made good phones, he made good music players. He sold them well. He got obscenely rich. He enabled an entire generation of techie design fetishists to walk around with more attractive gadgets.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: apple; ipad; jobs; pagans; stevejobs; stilldead
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To: IamCenny
He followed a diet consistent of HIV patients, pancreatic cancer is common in HIV patients (Kaposi Sarcoma).

Steve Jobs did not have AIDS... Aids patients CAN NOT GET LIVER TRANSPLANTS. They are NEVER even candidates for a transplant! A person with a compromised immune system cannot survive the immune suppressive drugs required to handle a foreign Liver from another person.

Pancreatic cancer is NOT "Kaposi (sic) Sarcoma" What you are referring to is Karposi's Sarcoma, a Cancer of the connective tissue, not the Pancreas!... you are completely ignorant of what you are talking about. That rumor was circulated because of Jobs' thinness... by ignorant people like you who were unaware of his surviving Pancreatic Cancer!

121 posted on 10/07/2011 7:33:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Gator113

thank you...


122 posted on 10/07/2011 7:41:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: toma29

So why does Jobs’ passing inspire such an outpouring of grief? and such vehement opposition thereto?


123 posted on 10/07/2011 7:49:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ReignOfError

MS clipped GUI from Apple. Apple clipped it from Xerox. Xerox got the idea from military radar systems. Such is life.


124 posted on 10/07/2011 7:56:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: jwalsh07
military radar systems

Military radar systems stole the idea from Billy!

125 posted on 10/07/2011 7:59:26 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Actually it is Bush's fault.
126 posted on 10/07/2011 8:08:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: IamCenny
Yes, the information on the page is correct, or I wouldn’t have cited it, it also has links to documents saying STEVE JOBS WAS HIV POSITIVE. Here’s another source. http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/230/1232163447241kk7.jpg, since you want to cry about wiki.

That report shows so many signs of being faked that it's an obvious fraud. It's a CREATED form... a "one-off" done on the spur of the moment by an amateur, not a form generated by a machine for multiple reports from a testing lab. I've seen too many multiple reports of this type not to recognize it instantly.

Fields on a "multiple report" designed for repetitious use for many official reports will have the fields print registered... this is not. The fields are randomly placed and are not one above the other for similar data. Even the ID data of Social Security and California DL are not registered as if Tabbed... but randomly dropped in as if cut and pasted, or just spaced to before typing. Another example is the "Negative" results for the Chlamydia and Gonorrhea tests are spaced and not tabbed... indicating a "one-off" creation, not a form-filled out by a computerized testing report. . . and further, Syphilis is missing, from a report on STDs where it would be expected to be found.

Finally, the HIV PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test is VERY iffy at fourteen days, there are very few viruses in the blood stream at that point in infection, and no lab would say "10-14 days" because it simply is not TRUE! ... three weeks is when you should START to take the HIV PCR test for any accuracy after exposure and even that is iffy on this test... and this one says it works at 10-14 days. That is FALSE. The PCR tests are NOT FDA approved for diagnosis as well because of a large number of false positives. This lab would be opening itself up to serious legal ramifications with the statement that "This Test works..." This is report is a FRAUD.

127 posted on 10/07/2011 8:15:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: IamCenny
Pancreatic cancer is more common in HIV patients....it’s called Kaposi’s Sarcoma, also he followed a diet that HIV patients follow. There would be no motivation for this information to be faked, Occham’s Razor. Simplest explanation is usually correct, Steve Jobs most likely had AIDS.

NO it IS NOT! You haven't got a clue. Kaposi's Sarcoma is a connective tissue cancer found under the skin and in mucosal membranes in the mouth, lungs, and intestines. Pancreatic Cancer is not usually survivable... only 20% after one year and a dismal 4% after five years. Steve Jobs form of Pancreatic Cancer was a more survivable type called a Neuroendocrine Cancer with a median survivability of five to eight years. Steve lasted eight years.

128 posted on 10/07/2011 8:26:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: updatedscreenname
In 10 years it will be Steve who?
MP3 players will be in the same junk box with 8 tracks.
iPAD & MacBook will be piled in the same corner with 286 computers.

I highly doubt that. Regular 286 computers have for the most part been junked and trashed. An Apple-1 cost more than $210,000 at auction recently. Early Apple IIs go for thousands of dollars. A Twentieth Anniversary Mac (1997 model) sold for $10,000 last year. Apple computers are kept and keep resale value, more so than most other brands. This is generally true of iPods and iPads as well. Some of my late 1990s Macs are still browsing the Internet with OS X, and perform well. How many 1990s PCs can run Windows 7 and browse the 'net?

129 posted on 10/07/2011 8:31:05 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: IamCenny
You can decide if it’s fake or not, enjoy. BTW shouldn’t you tell your daddy that you’re skipping school to play on his big boy toys all day?

Your own link says the "positive HIV report" you linked to"earlier WAS A FAKE... that the company that supposedly did the test in 2004, was not even founded until 2006! I told you it was a fake... and GAWKER was the source... just as this article is the from GAWKER. Your EVIDENCE is FAKE. Give it a rest, IamCenny! You are making yourself look foolish! I suggest you READ what you post before posting it.

Your YouTube link goes to the SAME FAKED documents... Great evidence!

Your first report shows that Kaposi's Sarcoma was MIMICKING Pancreatic Cancer in a terminal AIDS patient, not that it IS Pancreatic Cancer. Jobs was fully diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer. Again, not proof of anything you have stated as evidence. ONE CASE.

130 posted on 10/07/2011 8:39:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Similarly, PDA devices were around long before the iPhone and iPad. But they were devices purchased by geeks like me at technical conferences - we'd spend the conference poking at them with styluses, write some code for them and then leave them to gather dust because they were annoying to use and there was no market for them. Apple's devices changed all that - PDAs and tablet devices are going to remain a part of the world's culture for many years to come.

People forget that Personal Digital Assistant (PDA) was a term coined by Apple... for the Newton. Of course, Steve Jobs was busy founding NeXT and Pixar while PDA and Newton was being coined and invented by Apple... and he killed the Newton line when he returned to Apple.

131 posted on 10/07/2011 8:45:04 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: IamCenny
It’s odd that he kept the same diet as an HIV patient would, that it’s possible that kaposi sarcoma can mimic pancreatic cancer, and then the images (possibly fake) that show HIV positive for a Californian SSN, with Steve Jobs full name. It adds up, but again, decide for yourself.

Don't let the evidence being fake bother you at all...

132 posted on 10/07/2011 8:47:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Revolting cat!
I don’t know why but considered himself an artist
I'm not sure that artist is the right term, but he had taste. Some people do, and when you see what they specify, you realize the rightness of it.

So maybe the people who worked for him were artists, or at least "illustrators" - but someone has to recognize their talent and has to judge when those artists have accomplished a design which suits the function. Otherwise you would go off half-cocked, with the first thing the artist came up with - or you might keep on redoing the design and never commit to an actual product until the opportunity for selling the product was gone.

What Jobs did was to foresee what technological functions would sell, and discern when he had a design which provided those functions in a package which he could sell. And sell. And sell.


133 posted on 10/07/2011 9:31:58 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
There is an excellent article in today's WSJ about Apple's chief designer for the past 15 years, named Jonathan Ive. It may be available to non-subscribers online, I'm not sure, but it sounds like he's been the artist (in industrial design) and visionary behind many of Apple's products of the past decade. A low key dude nobody has heard about.

And in the same WSJ, Walt Mossberg, who apparently knew Jobs very well, and spoke to him often (Steve calling him regularly) said this about a conversation they had when the first Apple Store opened:

I teased him by asking if he, personally, despite his hard duties as CEO, had approved tiny details like the translucency of the glass and the color of the wood. He said he had, of course.

134 posted on 10/07/2011 9:43:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: tpmintx

They’re just showing their respects. Its only creepy if they keep doing it for weeks.


135 posted on 10/07/2011 9:48:07 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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To: tpmintx
Get. A. Life.

To those writing single word "English" sentences:

Get an education!

136 posted on 10/07/2011 9:50:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: discostu
When you see the pictures of the Steve Jobs “faithful” it's just like the public grief fest that came with Princess Diana's death. These people have invested in a cult of personality.

In Job's case, he'd made his piece to live his life fully — especially when he learned he was living on borrowed time.

Princess Diana was clueless. She was a self-absorbed, blubbering, emotional disaster area. I doubt if she ever thought of anything but herself and her immediate wants and desires. If she had married her Muslim lover, would she have worn a Burqua or Hajib?

137 posted on 10/07/2011 9:53:33 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: jwalsh07
I do offer prayers for those he left behind and hope that he corrected that character flaw but the way he treated Gates after Gates saved Apple with cold hard cash, I doubt the correction ever happened.

How many time do I have to SHOOT down that !@#ing canard? Gates did NOT save Apple with cold hard cash! OK, one more time... here are the actual facts:

Apple won a copyright infringement LAWSUIT settlement against Microsoft for stealing the Quicktime software code (which included as smoking gun evidence the Apple engineer's mother's maiden name in the code in MS's newly released Microsoft Windows Media Player!) that included a $150,000,000 settlement that they agreed would be handled by MS buying NON-VOTING, restricted Apple preferred stock.

The judge in the case indicated that, with the smoking gun evidence, it was likely going to be a multi-billion dollar judgement, the largest such copyright case in history! Microsoft DID NOT NEED THAT with the US Justice Department looking to break them up into at least three companies. He strongly suggested a compromise. Steve Jobs, newly returned to Apple as interim CEO, approached Microsoft, and offered a settlement. . . and MS blinked!

Had this been an actual "bail out," don't you think the bailer, Microsoft, would have demanded a seat on the Apple board of directors, to oversee the safety of their investment? That's the normal way such large bailout investment's in troubled companies are handled. Microsoft did not even get VOTING STOCK... much less a seat on the board! They got Preferred NON VOTING stock, with no say at all in how the company would be run!

Steve Jobs let them save face by allowing them to pay their infringement penalty by making it an "investment." Microsoft was not let off the hook easily, though. . .There was a lot more to the lawsuit settlement:

In addition to the monetary penalty for the infringement, Microsoft agreed to PAY Apple yearly, for a period of 5 years, an undisclosed, VERY LARGE amount for a license to use the QT code, plus another large yearly amount to license more of Apple's intellectual properties. In addition, Microsoft agreed to grant to Apple, in perpetuity for the lives of the patents and copyrights, licenses to use unspecified intellectual properties, AT NO COST, FREE!

Furthermore, as part of the settlement, Microsoft agreed they would re-open development and distribution of Microsoft Office for Mac which they had cancelled as part of their lawsuit leverage, and continue said development and distribution for a period of FIVE YEARS.

For its part of the settlement, Apple agreed to issue the pieces of paper (the stock certificates) in exchange for the $150 million (that cost to Apple was probably in excess of $100!), and Apple agreed to include Microsoft Internet Explorer—along with Netscape Navigator—as an included browser with all new Apple computers for a period of 5 years, Apple would agree to license—for the undisclosed fee—the disputed QT code that Microsoft had stolen for use in its MS Windows Media Player, and Apple would dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.

That's quite a lopsided agreement, wouldn't you say? That's because Microsoft would have LOST the lawsuit had it gone to trial. . . and they knew it. . . and Steve Jobs knew it. But it was cheaper than going to trial and losing. Both sides came out winners.

All of this is all laid out in three interlocking agreements which were reported in contemporary news reports (and which are now unsealed and you can look up on the Internet), all signed on the same day, all referencing each other, as part and parcel of the lawsuit settlement.

Shortly after that, Steve Jobs made his first appearance as iCEO at the MacWorld conference and then SURPRISE! Gates appeared at on the big screen to announce the "partnership" of Microsoft's continuing development of Office for Mac and Apple's inclusion of Internet Explorer in all new Macs. . . and got roundly boo'd by the audience.

It was only LATER, as PR SPIN, that it became a "bail out" by Microsoft of a "failing Apple"... but Apple had over $2.4 billion in liquid assets and had already posted a profitable quarter when the $150 million was transferred. Apple could not counter the spin, because they were under a DNR that was part of the settlement... and were always close mouthed anyway. That the myth has lived FAR too long is great testimony to the power of Microsoft's PR department.

By the way, Microsoft, SOLD that preferred stock as soon as they could, after the restrictions expired, and made quite a bit of profit from the sale... something like doubling their money.

As to the Wozniak scam, that was not a good thing he did, but I would think that making Woz a multi-hundred-millionaire many times over has more than made up for the $600 the Atari deal difference was all about... especially considering Woz would have been happy with an "atta boy, neat computer" from the members of the Homebrew Computer Society over designing the Apple II... and didn't expect anything more than that, and has said so. Woz says he doesn't hold it against him.

138 posted on 10/07/2011 9:53:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: toma29

nut ping


139 posted on 10/07/2011 10:15:11 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Swordmaker

Actually SXcheck was around then, their WEBSITE wasn’t launched until 2006. All the data on the “fake” documents seem to be real, what would be the point of faking elaborate documents saying he had HIV? I did read what I posted, you think apple would say steve jobs had HIV? Much better for his image and apple’s image to say “he died from pancreatic cancer” when it’s possible that he in fact died from complications from HIV and pancreatic cancer.

“I suggest you read what you posted before posting it”

I suggest you read what I posted before you post a contradiction. These documents and statements make you wonder. Of course websites that idolize Apple are going to say it’s fake. Just like all the websites that idolize Obama say the birth certificates aren’t fake. As I said before, decide for yourself.


140 posted on 10/08/2011 3:24:35 AM PDT by IamCenny
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