Posted on 10/03/2011 12:42:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
Keyes v. Bowen: Petition DENIED
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Nice crystal ball you have there!
How did you assess the probability that Obama would be forced by the court of public opinion to cough up a computer generated pdf of his alleged LFBC?
I am hopeful that the court of public opinion, aided by Sheriff Arpaio's posse, will soon be persuaded that Obama forged that pdf, especially now that Obama’s protection has evaporated.
If the Dow falls another 2000 points and unemployment heads back up to 10%, a lot more Dems will become birthers (even more than they quietly have already).
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;Money is coined. And the last clause "fix the Standard of Weights and Measures" emphasizes a hard coinage of fixed weight and alloy.
Paper money? That's fine as long as a hard coin of fixed weight and makeup is what that paper security represents, and can be produced in some some fixed and achievable means of exchange.
Words have meaning. Some words must have a fixed meaning for society to function well, the Founder's gave us MORE than a legacy of a Constitution, for that document is meaningless and void with a co-equal legacy of meaning of the words and terms within it.
Obama knew and when did he know it. Did Justice Roberts give him a clue sometime before the private swearing in ceremony after a phoney botched public ceremony. I’ve often wondered if the private affair which I think did not use a Christian bible actually used something akin to the Queran. Robert’s needs to clear this up along with the actual words used such as’ defend the Constitution against all enemies’.
I am not an expert on the SCOTUS but if a case comes before it for conference and it happens to be settled law, ie and abortion case, would not the court just turn it down, as if to say “you idiot this is settled law”. So is it possible that the court is saying, via Minor v Happersett, “you idiot this is settled law?”
IIRC, this appeal case was not a case on the merits of what NBC means or whether Obama in particular was NBC, but rather whether the CA SoS had an affirmative duty to verify whether all candidates on the ballot were or were not eligible (presumably NBC by whatever definition the CA SoS thought appropriate).
In general SCOTUS won't get into a state's business if it can avoid it. That is a conservative position to take, IMO.
SCOTUS gave no reason so we simply do not know what reason at least six justices had for not taking the case (it takes four to get cert). Each of the six could have had a different reason and they don't have to agree!
If SCOTUS had agreed to a hearing it wouldn't rule until May or June 2012, which is after the 2012 CA primary would be essentially over, but it would likely only be a remand and that wouldn't be resolved until after Jan 2013 and wouldn't prevent Obama from being re-elected.
You are correct and I am guilty of a knee jerk reaction, something I am experiencing more and more these days....thanx for bring back to earth.
In a way, they are giving a modicum showing of integrity by refusing to take any Obama eligibility case, although their inactions are pusillanimous. They likely fear they would have to trade on their integrity if they had to make a ruling in Obama's favor to avoid other fears that they are imagining if they correctly ruled against Obama's presidency.
As an example, one of the federal appeals courts recently made a non-ruling on the Constitutionality about ObamaCare against the state of Virginia. The 3 judge appeals court panel made of 2 Obama and 1 Clinton appointments, opined that the State of Virgina had "no standing" to bring the suit.
These three Democrat jurists of the Fourth Circuit, "rested their opinion on a factual error." Very sloppy work for an appeals court, but not for ones who wanted to rule in favor of Obama and the Dems. It is this same type of mindset that prevails in our court system. Their wants and their fears, whether imagined or real take precedent - and not the honest interpretation of the law.
I suspect that without proper discovery in a trial on the merits in a lower court, SCOTUS is taking a conservative position in “evading” the cases that have come to them.
Who is Obama, really? Who is his legal father (or his mother according to some)? Did he have dual citizenship at birth or is he legally a bastard with unitary US citizenship? Where was he born?
Without “proving up” evidence in a trial under the FRE showing who Obama’s father is and where he was born, no lower court ruling on Obama’s constitutional eligibility can be reviewed on appeal by SCOTUS.
Proof of identity fraud by Obama would be another matter. Maybe if we can get rid of Holder and Joe Arpaio’s posse recommends a grand jury we can get somewhere!
SCOTUS and the lower courts won't make advisory opinions and won't order fishing expedition based on suspicions.
“I’ve often wondered if the private affair which I think did not use a Christian bible actually used something akin to the Queran. Robert’s needs to clear this up along with the actual words used such as’ defend the Constitution against all enemies’.”
There’s no video, but audio of Obama’s second swearing in is available if you want to check the wording:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17778.html
You might also want to check the Constitution. The phrase “against all enemies” is not in the Article II oath. I would not expect the Chief Justice to comment on what, if any, holy book was employed; according to Article VI, “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
“Nice crystal ball you have there!”
How’s mine? On September 27’th I predicted: “They will deny the petition for writ of certiorari.” And, “The denial will probably be without further comment. Most likely it will come out this Friday or next Monday.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784181/posts?q=1&;page=51
Predicting that ALL the birther cases will be denied does not require a crystal ball, unless “crystal ball” is code for “grasp of reality”.
Seizethecarp wrote: “SCOTUS gave no reason so we simply do not know what reason at least six justices had for not taking the case (it takes four to get cert).”
Moreover, it takes just one justice to call for a brief from the respondents, and the High Court invariably requires response briefs before granting certiorari. SCOTUS has denied all the birther petitions without ever once obtaining a brief from the opposition.
Seizethecarp wrote (quoted out of order): “In general SCOTUS won’t get into a state’s business if it can avoid it. That is a conservative position to take, IMO.”
An astute observation. Kreep an Keyes had already appealed up to the California Supreme Court, and lost at every level. To prevail at SCOTUS they needed a federal law assigning responsibility to this state officer. You can look up their brief; Kreep wrote some words that kind-of-might-be-angling at that. No chance. A bad lawyer with a bad case. No chance.
No kidding. It's been understood for a long time that questioning Obama results in accusations of racism and/or other smears. Thanks to the lack of any formal protocol in enforing Art II, Sec I, nobody under the umbrella of our government apparently has the balls to look at the issue with any honesty.
If Arpaio’s posse succeeds in getting a criminal indictment leading to discovery, Obama is going to regret giving in to Corsi and Trump on April 27 rather than waiting a few more days for the Osama rub-out to take the story out of the news and cement (at least for a few weeks) the image of Obama as an “American hero.”
If Corsi's experts' evidence of forgery holds up and HI DOH cannot substantiate Obama's birth in HI, then the whole NBC question can come back in to the federal courts. Such an NBC case would never make it to SCOTUS before Nov. 2012, but it could make it to a district court and I would expect Obama to then resign on a pretext and obtain a blanket pardon from Biden.
‘Against all enemies’ is not explicit in the oath for POTUSA per my version of the Constitution. However, the oath as specified does explicitly require that the POTUSA take an oath to ‘preserve , protect and defend the Constitution of the United States’. Perhaps the POTUSA isn’t bound by the word enemies as for ordinary citizens but I submit the required oath certainly encompasses the meaning for enemies. In Obama’s case his views on Constitutional changes to suit his agenda doesn’t seem in accord with the oath that should have been made.
That does not explain better or clarify your point.
- No person except a natural born Citizen, shall be eligible to the Office of President
-- US Constitution
- Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen
-- John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution
- Obama's father, Barack Obama, Sr., was born in Nyanza Province, Kenya and never became a US citizen.
-- Reality
- The probability of an American nickel landing on edge is approximately 1 in 6000 tosses.
-- Phys. Rev. E 48, 2547–2552 (1993), Probability of a tossed coin landing on edge
- More lengthy explanation, especially for those who are arrogant sobs.
- A ghost town called Dollersheim
BO, Obama’s Dog
IN THE MUSLIM RELIGION, DOGS ARE UNCLEAN AND NOT ALLOWED TO TRAVEL IN THE SAME VEHICLE AS THE MUSLIM. Bo has never traveled in the same means of transportation with the First Family.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! REMEMBER ALL THE OTHER PRESIDENTS WITH THEIR DOGS COMING OFF THE PLANE WITH THEM??? NOT THE OBAMA’S...
Bo’s vacation — HOW CAN AMERICA BE SO BLIND???????
I guess since they had to swallow their pride and use the Gulfstream there just wasn’t enough room for the dog and one other person.
Did you know the Pres. flew BO, the dog, in on a separate smaller jet to Maine for their vacation???? Wonder if that sets well with all the unemployed, hurting, US citizens who can’t afford food, but we can pay for this. The above is true. I Google “Bo the dog flying to Maine “ and got 76,700 references verifying this. One of them follows:
Michelle Malkin: Just Plane Crazy: Obama’s Dog Flies to Vacation on Separate Jet
Doug Powers: The Obama’s arrived at their vacation spot in Maine, and the local paper, the Morning Sentinel, described the scene:
The president was the first to walk onto the tarmac, dressed casually in a pale blue Oxford shirt and khakis. A few minutes later, the first lady, dressed in black caprice, a tank-top and sandals, walked onto the runway. Shortly afterward, Malia and Sasha joined their parents. Baldacci and his wife, Karen, presented the family with gift bags full of Maine-made goodies, including baskets made by the Passamaquoddy Tribe, popcorn from Little Ladie’s Bakery in East Corinth,iconic L.L. Bean bags, University of Maine ice hockey hats, and an assortment of other Maine foods and books. Karen Baldacci said the bags for Malia and Sasha contained one loon toy and one chickadee toy that sound their natural calls.
Arriving in a small jet before the Obama’s was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.
The president who said the rest of us are going to have to sacrifice to get out of these hard economic times let his dog fly on his own plane? Not enough room on Air Force One (a Gulfstream on this trip) for a Portuguese water dog and Reggie Love? OH, by the way, Mr. Love, Bo’s handler, is paid $102,000.00 a year to take care of him.
What side of the ballot will you mark in November?
http://www/. snopes.com/politics/Obama/bo.asp
Dollersheim, the erased place, like Obama’s erased record.
The disappearance, the apparently deliberate erasure, of Döllersheim is one of the most peculiar aspects of the deeply tangled xxxxxx-genealogy controversy. The tiny village was literally blasted off the map and out of existence sometime after xxxxxx annexed Austria. An effort-some partisans in the controversy contend-to erase all traces of certain irregular and disreputable xxxxxx family events that took place there. Irregularities that have long cast a shadow over accounts of xxxxxx's origins. Irregularities that had given rise to repeated pilgrimages to Döllersheim in the prewar years by journalists and other interested investigators, news of which invariably provoked Hitler into near-apoplectic rages."People must not know who I am," he was reported to have ranted when he learned of one of the early investigations into his family history. "They must not know where I come from."
“No kidding. It’s been understood for a long time that questioning Obama results in accusations of racism and/or other smears.”
Garry Kreep, the attorney representing Keyes, did about the worst job I’ve ever heard arguing that he’s not racist. He repeated a made-up Internet rumor that Obama is more Arab than black, concluding: “I guess Mr. Obama is the first Arab president and the second black president or something like that.”
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2011/04/26/the-andrea-shea-king-show
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