Posted on 10/02/2011 3:09:26 PM PDT by Starman417
Barack Obama ordered the assassination of two American citizens. No one is arguing that they weren't bad, but this is a terrible precedent.
An American President now can order the assassination of American citizens.
An American President can now suspend any American's constitutional rights at will.
Think about that.
Why did we give Timothy McVeigh a trial?
Why don't we just kill Case Anthony? We all know she's guilty.
Why do we even bother having trials?
Over at Huffington Post there is division on this issue. They quote Jane Harman:
"It's tricky that he was a U.S. citizen, but he clearly stated his intention to kill Americans and the Justice Department thoroughly vetted the legal issues and this strike was within the law,"
The Justice Department vetted this? Holder vetted this?
That borders on insanity. This is the same Holder "Justice Department" who put an end to the Black Panther intimidation case. The is the same Holder "Justice Department" which intentionally sent weapons into Mexico. This is the same Justice Department that sues states for attempting to protect their borders. This is the same "Justice Department" that wants a civil trial for Khalid Sheik Muhammamed.
HuffPo is allowing no comments that question Obama's decision to assassinate an American citizen. I suspect that even they know how wrong this was.
What is the threshold for ordering the death of American citizens?
Joe Biden likened Tea Party members to terrorists.
Vice President Joe Biden joined House Democrats in lashing tea party Republicans Monday, accusing them of having “acted like terrorists” in the fight over raising the nation’s debt limit, according to several sources in the room.Biden was agreeing with a line of argument made by Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) at a two-hour, closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting.
“We have negotiated with terrorists,” an angry Doyle said, according to sources in the room. “This small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money.”
Biden, driven by his Democratic allies’ misgivings about the debt-limit deal, responded: “They have acted like terrorists.”
Golly, if they're terrorists, then Obama can have them killed, right?
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
The one who goes to work for Al Qaeda in Yemen?
It’s time we realized that Achmed Ali Abdul Muhammed is not an American just because he has the damn piece of paper saying so.
He doesn’t think so, and neither should we.
A passport does not automatically make you an American.
+1
A blogpimp that only posts excerpts and never comments?
I know, the current administration endorses such scummy activities...
Now, what gives the CIC the authority to kill American citizens making war against the United States?
Well, the same Constitution that makes him the top of the military chain of command.
The 5th Amendment even makes sure that the right of an individual to have an indictment before trial and conviction also says that doesn't have to happen in war.
Hopefully all the Americans that are enemy combatants.
Didn’t they declare the Tea Party terrorists? In that mind set, next time we rally at DC they can open fire and kill each and every one of us.
Hopefully any that have renounced their citizenship by becoming any enemy of America during war.........
What s stupid rant!! Awlaki was NOT (read that again!!) an American citizen!! He was born in America, but his father was YEMENI. If, as a dual citizen, Awlaki did NOT claim his American citizenship by age 18, it was revoked and he was a Yemeni!!
We need to stop crying over this media-driven lie. It is NOT TRUE!!!!
Al Qaeda is an enemy army, at war with America, operating on foriegn soil, not a criminal gang in America. And since they target civilians, and don’t wear uniforms they are illgal combatants. They have no rights, regardless of where they were born.
Democrats never kill people.....they just “render them more earth-friendly”.
I’m hoping that it will be Adam Gadahn.
If conservatives think they’re going to get any mileage out of this “Obama-as-assassin” meme, they’re nuts. They should be applauding the death of this scuzbag, not simpering over the manner of his death. It just looks like partisan squabbling ... which is exactly what it is.
If we declared war and then stripped terrorists and enemy combatants of their citizenship, then it is a legal killing of our enemies.
They’d rather find penumbras to justify it than follow the law. Then they can do anything regardless of the law because the law is only a theoretical framework of intent.
Gadahn, the first American to be charged with treason since the second world war era, is one of the FBI's top 10 most wanted terrorists and has had a $1m reward offered for information leading to his capture.
I would love it if the next president said that terrorists caught on the battlefield would be treated EXACTLY as the Geneva Conventions proscribe. Since they target civilians purposefully and seek to murder everyone they don’t like, they will be arrested, questioned, tried by military tribunal, and summarily executed.
Biden or Palin. Take your pick!
When an “American’’ wages war against America, that “American’’ loses the right to be called an American.
To be fair, I remember Bush saying or hinting we were going to do this, 911 was fresh in our minds, he explained the war on terror, war without borders, and I didn't have a problem with killing the "bad" guys.
But being forced to think about it on a different level, it's unconstitutional, and I regret that I so summarily dismissed it before. Who's to say it will stop with who we're told are bad guys? If they're American citizens they should have a trial, inconvenient and undesirable as that may be; they will hide behind "secret" evidence and "intelligence gathering". I know it's easier just to blast them to kingdom come but we are supposed to be a nation of law.
So I'm against it on those grounds. Sooner or later it may not stop with the bad guys or they will make an awful mistake or some other scenario.
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