Posted on 08/16/2011 8:11:46 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
The full context of the paragraph, as well as the speech, can be found below:
President Foxs vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexicos citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.
Direct Link: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/
Should have read:
The message must not be exported nationwide.
” I look forward to the day when the real conservatives vying for the Republican nomination destroy Perry by exposing his liberal leanings nationally. Why should Mitt Romney get called on his liberalism and Perry should not? “
Good question. I await an answer.
Perhaps your idea of what an open border means and my idea are not equivalent. We have an “open border” with Canada. People, as well as goods, cross that border every day, and I do not hear any clamor for building a fence along the U.S./Canada border. Respectfully, you have made an assumption that “Open” must mean that there are no controls whatsoever. I have NEVER suggested this.
Reagan agreed to “Amnesty” believing the dimocRATS would keep to their word of that act being a one-time-only agreement, and that the problems with the border would be addressed. The dimocRATS lied. Reagan admitted that the “Amnesty” program was a mistake. So, my question to you is, “What is your point”?
Most of the time when a Freeper posts a drink sodden reply that is full of grammar errors and makes no sense, they accuse the other person of being the one drinking. Had a guy over on another anti-Perry thread post incomprehensible drivel and then proceeded to tell me to "sober up". Drunks often project.
Well he is awake and (possibly) sober. I’ve seen him posting this morning already.
They do as well from mexico. Most of it legally.
... and I do not hear any clamor for building a fence along the U.S./Canada border.
There is a reason for that. The people from Canada are worlds apart fromt eh people 'south of the border'. As in - respectful of our laws, are fully civilized and westernized. Compare that to the majority that cross the southern border.
Respectfully, you have made an assumption that Open must mean that there are no controls whatsoever. I have NEVER suggested this.
I guess you better clarify. "Open" to me means without control. What is your interpretation?
My interpretation is a border in which people and goods are permitted to legally move across - which, I believe, was the intent of Gov. Perry’s comments as I understood them.
Oh, and this would be as opposed to a “closed” border in which no one moves across the border without first being stopped, searched, interrogated, investigated, etc (such as what happens on borders in Israel. My understanding is that Perry would like to see a border where these constraints are not needed - where people abide by the laws of both countries. At the present time this does not exist on our southern border. But, I find no reason for people not to work towards that goal.
How about the threat posed by muslim terrorists? Do you think we will one day live in harmony with those who want you dead? If not, how do you propose we have them cross w/o first being stopped, searched, interrogated, investigated, etc?
Just the thought of an open southern border is absurd. We live in a world that requires we protect our borders, be it from muslim terrorists or Juan and Maria coming here from Mexico so Maria can have her kid on the US taxpayer dime. To think otherwise is either insanity or political pandering neither of which is desirable in a presidential candidate.
It's news to me that the border between the U.S. and mexico is closed. Here all this time I thought that went on on a daily basis.
i think its pretty evident here exactly why Perry will be “allowed” to become president this cycle.
The RinoCracy now plans to flush America with Mehico....
In-state tuition is absolutely subsidized by taxpayers in state colleges.
The “DREAM act” is for illegals.
Perry calls a border fence “ridiculous”.
That’s what you think Vincente Fox’ idea of “open borders” is?
Is that what I said?
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