Person in HawaII : "Obama flew with parents from Kenya to Hawaii at 5 months old"

Birther Report ^ | August 10, 2011 | Birther Report

[RobinMasters]

Person in Hawaii claims he obtained PAN AM flight logs that show Obama flew with parents from Kenya to Hawaii at 5 months old.

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We don't yet know the validity of the person's claim but we have contacted the person for more details which are below.

Initial comment from "miller4000" at Hawaii's KHON2 TV :

Initial comment from "miller4000" at Hawaii's KHON2 TV: "I have a copy of the birth certificate. I will post this soon and then corroborating evidence barrack actually flew into Hawaii at 5 months of age with his parents. You see I figured out how to prove this because I obtained logs of flights from what was. PAN AM and there were only two airlines flying into Hawaii at that time. It was fairly easily once I found the archived records. This cover up involves major players in Hawaii and in the federal government. Believe or don't believe me I don't care. Obama was born in Kenya to father who was a communist agent trained in Moscow!"

A couple of excerpts from our initial email exchange:

Could you please elaborate more on what you have discovered and when it will be released?

"........ Pan Am kept flight logs and in the 5 To 10 months that pretty much were a window for his birth only a certain number of flights from Asia were recorded and passenger manifests will show people who arrived foreign passports and a black man and white woman. ........"

Were you able to obtain the actual flight logs?

"Yes"

[bgill]

And that is the most glaring problem most people have with such events out of the past, that records were written or typed, copies were made, copies of copies were made and filed, filed in storage rooms, filed on microfiche.

Remember, too, that everything was done in triplicate. His mop up guys might have scrubbed a lot of information but there's no way they got to everything he's done and everywhere he's been over the last 50 years.

[little jeremiah]

Plenty of kamaainas - people born in HI or long time residents - including haoles - don’t like how HI has changes in the last few decades. The cost of housing there is completely insane, and the tourist industry has a very dark side. HI is an extremely corrupt state on every level. A person doesn’t have to be an 0bomba lover to know this.

[Jim Noble]

[bgill]

“I was only sixteen then,” she told us as we entered the elevator. “I’d just been accepted to the University of Chicago- Gramps hadn’t told me yet that he wouldn’t let me go-and I was there for the summer, working as an au pair.”

If anyone believes a word of "Dreams" but let's play along. Ok, so Stanley agrees to let his 17 year old daughter go all the way to Chicago to be someone's nanny. He knew she'd already been accepted to the University of Chicago so this job would have fit nicely between her classes and having a safe place to live. Sounds good all the way around. But, suddenly Stanley brings her home and she's not allowed to go to college there. What happened to make him do an about face? Had to have been something big. A teen pregnancy would have changed most parents' minds.

[MMaschin]

I agree dreams has a lot of ‘bloopers’, and Obama does not appear to be very good with dates, and ages. But I do think that it can be determined that it was the summer of 1960, that SAD was in Chicago, by looking at some more reliable ancillary evidence.

Obama mentions that a favorite movie of his mothers was ‘Black Orpheus’, and that she saw it for the first time during the summer when she was an Au Pair in Chicago. ‘Black Orpheus’ was released in the US in November of 1959. I think it’s safe to say that SAD could tell the difference between Winter, and Summer. So if the statement that she first saw the movie during the summer in Chicago, it would have had to have been the summer of 1960.

[Joe Marine 76]

Good info... Thanks

[DiogenesLamp]

So could this guy really have flown to Miami to dig through 1,500 cubic feet of PAN AM archives to find 1961 flight logs from Kenya? Or did he just get lucky and find it some other way? (One can only hope).

I don't put much stock in it, but should it turn out to be true I shall be pleasantly surprised.

[Fantasywriter]

Just a couple of observations re: Dreams. First, according to a friendly biographer, Michelle took Barry’s notes and gave them to Bill Ayers. Ayers turned what was likely a rat’s nest of near-useless data points into a work of fiction and the lib spin machine took over from there.

Secondly, I can tell you from firsthand experience a that you can’t trust one word out of a Malignant Narcissist’s mouth. They can rewrite history that took place five minutes ago, come up with an unrecognizable narrative, swear it’s true, and attack your jugular if you dare to disagree. Little Barry’s notes and recollection have about the historical/accuracy level of Algore’s assessment of climate science. In point of fact, one of the surest ways to know something is probably not true is to find it stated as fact in Dreams. Sad but true.

muawiyah, here’s a discussion of Dreams you might find interesting.

[Bikkuri]

Great job proving a point ;)

This is what it takes to make the doubters (afterbirthers) ‘eat crow’

:D

[Dakkster]

Good point on ‘Black Orpheus’, but it only adds to the confusion. According to Wiki, ‘Black Orpheus’ was released on December 21, 1959 in the US.

So Ann must have seen the movie in Chicago when she was seventeen not sixteen. I wonder if movies were still in movie theaters 6-7 months after their release back in the early sixties in order for Ann to see the movie in the summer.

When Ann states “and I was there for the summer, working as an au pair”, it is not clear whether she meant that she saw the movie in the summer as well.

In conclusion, the whole statement is confusing and shouldn’t be used as evidence that Ann was in Chicago in the summer of 1960.

[woofie]

I might have to hold off a bit on getting excited

[Dakkster]

I wouldn’t rule out anything, but I just haven’t seen enough concrete evidence on Malcolm X, to make him a possible candidate as Barry’s father.

[woofie]

Was looking at some info on Lucas last night.....the guy is a serial petty criminal,,,,truly amazing how much stuff has emerged about him and his followers still follow

[Dakkster]

“So I’m thinking Franks Obamas father but Madelyn Dunham is his mother”

If I had to place all the chips on one combination, I would go with the Frank Marshall Davis & Madeline Payne combination as well

[null and void]

Damning if true

[Dakkster]

“If anyone believes a word of “Dreams” but let’s play along”

The amazing thing is that Barry’s whole “Barack Hussein Obama” identity and presidency is based on a completely phony ‘Dreams’ memoir, 2 fake newspaper birth announcements, 2 photoshopped “1971” Obama Sr airport photos and a phony COLB.

[Shimmer1]

You mean that she flew to Washington state when he was tiny, flew back to Kenya, and then back to the U.S. when he was 5 mos old? Because he was in Washington state when his mother had to be taught to change a diaper.

[null and void]

Beats me, I’m in the Out of Canada school, m’self.

The other alternative is Susan Blake lied.

Naaaaah!

[thecodont]

Thanks for the ping.

Keep praying that the truth will come to light.

[Jedidah]

If I recall correctly, the “Dreams” story also mentioned that Stanley Ann saw the movie “Black Orpheus” during the au pair summer in Chicago.

“Black Orpheus” was released in December, 1959. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/

Which puts her — assuming the story is true — in Chicago in summer, 1960.

Would be nice to know where X was that summer. He was HQ’d in Chicago.