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1 posted on 08/01/2011 1:45:42 PM PDT by opentalk
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2 posted on 08/01/2011 1:47:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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3 posted on 08/01/2011 1:51:22 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: opentalk

The source for this article has a definite agenda (as does everyone). I would like to see a few more facts.


4 posted on 08/01/2011 1:58:15 PM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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5 posted on 08/01/2011 1:58:34 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (We are past the end of the beginning and now going into the beginning of the end.)
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To: opentalk

Whatta load of nonsense.

BTW, you might want to check out “naturalnews.com” and the guy behind it, “Mike Adams.” He’s a marketing guru. He was involved in marketing Y2K hype when that was fashionable.


6 posted on 08/01/2011 1:58:34 PM PDT by NVDave
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Are these proof of evolution? Is it “God’s will” that these super weeds become resistant to eradication measures?

(Not trying to be contentious or overly Darwinian, but hoping to expand the conversation a bit. No offense intended toward any group.)


7 posted on 08/01/2011 1:59:09 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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Uh, oh. It’s the “Day of the Triffids”.


8 posted on 08/01/2011 1:59:15 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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I just read Weed Science for the centerfolds.


10 posted on 08/01/2011 2:00:51 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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The only way it is possible to get rid of superweeds ... is to end the cultivation of GM crops for good. ... [E]very GM field would have to be uprooted, tilled, and burned, and the whole of mainstream agriculture would have to embrace a system of chemical-free polyculture that naturally encourages proper soil health and microbial diversity

Uh huh...

11 posted on 08/01/2011 2:01:11 PM PDT by null and void (Day 921. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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Hey, there should be a lot of commercial uses for a tougher than steel Plant fiber.\s


12 posted on 08/01/2011 2:01:26 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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All I know is to NEVER buy organic top soil, esp. if it’s from out of state. I made that mistake this spring and am now battling some crazy strain of invasive stalk-like grass. Never had it before and it’s only in areas where I put the organic top soil.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 2:03:24 PM PDT by rintense (God made me a conservative. FR made me a better one. :))
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Pigweed damaging iron and steel? Really??? I giggle in this guy's general direction.

Weeds develop resistance due to misuse of glyphosates, not because Monsanto developed RoundUp.

14 posted on 08/01/2011 2:10:01 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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Hippie trippy anti-technological mysticism.
17 posted on 08/01/2011 2:11:25 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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A pefect source material for biofuels!


18 posted on 08/01/2011 2:11:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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This is HUGH.


19 posted on 08/01/2011 2:12:42 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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First let’s clear up some BAD science in the first line:

“... mutated to develop resistance to popular herbicides”

Acquired traits are not inherited.

Organisms do not change their genes in response to environmental stress. For example, giraffes do not produce offspring with genes to grow longer necks to better reach increasingly higher leaves on taller trees. The truth is parents with genes for long necks pass along those genes to their offspring who then grow long necks— survive better and longer and produce more fertile offspring. The genes have to be present in the population to permit NATURAL SELECTION to occur due to environmental stress.

Mutations, which are almost always harmful in real life, UNLESS ENGINEERED, only become predominant in the population if they are ‘successful.’

In this instance **IF** a mutation occurred in a seed or seeds of SINGLE GROWTH of a strain of weeds in location A, this ‘super bug’ weed could arise from that and spread. And that takes a while. MRSA is an analogous example of that.

The mere presence of a herbicide does NOT cause mutations to arise that make the weed population resistant to the herbicide. Rather what happens is that only those specimens that ALREADY were resistant were able to live to maturity and produce fertile seeds with a genome akin to the parent(s).

**IF** the herbicide can be shown to be a mutagen, that is a different story. But keep in mind most often ‘random’ mutations result in stillborn, early-dead or infertile offspring.

There is NO willful act of mutation in nature. there is speciation, and there is mutation. Environmental stress (aka herbicides) WILL drive a shift in the gene prominence/population of surviving organisms. THAT is NOT mutation.

Now I will read the article ;-)


20 posted on 08/01/2011 2:12:42 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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"Super-strains of plants like pigweed --which grows three inches a day."

Does it have any use? Gasohol, fabrics, paper, or plastics?

22 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:23 PM PDT by Average Al
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“A superweed ate my baby.”


27 posted on 08/01/2011 2:37:45 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Time to buy a goat or two.


29 posted on 08/01/2011 2:45:24 PM PDT by Teflonic
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Look out, here come the giant tumbleweeds.


31 posted on 08/01/2011 2:48:11 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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