Posted on 07/23/2011 3:26:26 PM PDT by jacknhoo
This ia a Movie by Anders Behring Breivik - Knights Templar 2083 The man behind explosion in Oslo who killed 7 people, and about 90 youth people at Utøya island outside Oslo July 22th . Anders Behring Breivik is A 32-year-old Norwegian he has been arrested over two terror attacks in Norway as 92 are confirmed dead . Police have said the Norwegian man arrested after the twin attacks in Norway is a right-winger with anti-Muslim views, but they do not know whether that was a factor in the attacks. His views are very clear from this video of his production it is also said that he admired of the Dutch far right politician Geert Wilders and he is also described as "Christian fundamentalist" and a Freemason.Officers are continuing to search Breivik's property - a flat and farmhouse - in a wealthy suburb west of Oslo. It has emerged that he is a former member of a populist anti-immigration party who wrote blogs attacking multiculturalism and Islam. Website entries under Breivik's name criticised European politicians for trying to accommodate the cultures of different ethic groups, and claimed a significant minority of young British Muslims backed radical Islamic militancy.
"When did multiculturalism cease to be an ideology designed to deconstruct European culture, traditions, identity and nation-states?" said one entry, posted on February 2, 2010 on the right-wing website www.document.no.
"According to two studies, 13% of young British Muslims aged between 15 and 25 support al Qaeda ideology," said another entry dated February 16 last year.
He described himself on his Facebook page as leaning towards right-wing Christianity.
Breivik had also been a member of the Progress Party, the second largest in parliament and a rival to the Labour Party.
Knights Templar 2083 by Anders Behring Breivik - Oslo killer
(translated with GoogleTranslate)
The Norwegian Masonic Order of expressing compassion and care
From the Norwegian Order of Freemasons
I am appalled by the terrible crime has been committed in the government quarter and the Utøya, says the Norwegian-order Masonic Grand Master, Ivar A. Skar.
We think with sorrow and compassion for those who have been affected and their relatives.
It has emerged in the media that the accused has been a member of the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. He is now excluded with immediate effect.
Exclusion is an expression of the acts he is accused of having carried out and the values that appear to have motivated them is completely incompatible with what we stand for that order.
We build our business on the Christian and humanist values and want our members to contribute to the promotion of charity, peace and goodness in people.
The police will of course get all the help and information we can help with.
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The Norwegian Order of Freemasons
Lower Vollgt. 19, 0158 Oslo.
PO Box 506 Sentrum, N-0105 Oslo.
This is garbage. I know Masons of the right and left persuasion. This filth isn’t fit to lick their boots.
Thanks for the link, the video explains a lot.
I’m a Freemason - and a true Christian.
Who are you to tell me I’m not?
I’m always amazed to hear people’s opinions about things they know absolutely nothing about - except what they read from the tin foil crowd.
It had nothing to do with the money but was a matter of power and orthodoxy.
Also, check into the difference between Scottish Rite Masons (the US version) and the European variety. Masons have always been a huge political power in Europe, and it is one generally directed against the Catholic Church and also against Christians who won’t accept deism. US Masons are basically a fraternal order with a few funny customs.
As for the Templars, they were setting up their own fiefdoms. The Masons believe they have a close connection with the Templars, as you probably know, and therefore it is not at all unbelievable to me that this man would be both a Mason and a wanna-be Templar.
Don’t imagine I don’t know about Freemasonry.
Have you read Morals and Dogma, or did you join the cult without reading it because your “buddy” was in it?
One more thing.
A true Mason has a “Masonic” burial. WIll you have a masonic burial, or a Christian burial?
Why not choose NOW while you are alive, which master you will serve?
Oh, and sure, I am not “privy” to all the “secrets” aka Occult knowledge.
And no I'm not a Mason so I have every right tell whatever info I know..while others who are good people will stay silent. I know great men and women of every religion and non-religion who are Masons and I find it extremely offensive when great people are dissed on phoney information from decades old BS.The Masons I know are principled people of the left and the right and this murderer had an agenda to discredit them...makes you go hmmmm...doesn't it? Or does it?
How so?
Livius, I won’t argue the friction between Masons and the Catholic church. There’s a lot of history there - some of it going back to the purge of the Templars (whether or not there’s a true connection, there are many Masons - myself included - who feel there is).
I do, however, disagree with you on why the Templars were purged, and I think history bears me out.
King Philip desperately needed money after his disastrous wars with England. His government was all but broke. He was convinced that the Templars - through their banking system and their many years managing the trade routes between the Holy Land and Europe, as well as their years of occupation of the Holy Land - had enormous wealth and treasure. While Pope Clement V was concerned about the power that the Templars wielded, it was not enough for him to take action against what was well known as a solidly Catholic army with a nice income for the church. Unfortunately, King Philip had the pope tied around his little finger. Philip started a whisper campaign against the Templars that ultimately led to Clement V’s distrust of the order, and it got to a point where, when King Philip told the pope it was time to move on them, Clement V went along and ordered the purge. Philip allowed his army to perform the treachery, and on Friday the 13th, 1307, his men simultaneously attacked, killed, and captured Templars all over Europe.
Philip discovered after the purge that there was no treasure - or at least it was missing. Furious, he tortured - with the pope’s blessing - the captured Templars to force them to divulge the location of the treasure. None would confess, or perhaps there was nothing to confess, and ultimately the remaining members, including Jaques De Molay, then the head of the order, were killed.
You are correct that the Masons do wield more influence in Europe than they do here in the States, but they certainly do not control the governments, or even have a controlling interest in their rule. In fact, to demonstrate the fallacy of this “right wing” meme that is going around, Hitler had Freemasons rounded up in Europe the same as Gypsies and Jews, and many of them went to the ovens as well.
It’s dreadful this idiot was a Mason, but Freemasonry or it’s edicts had absolutely nothing to do with this guy’s behavior. In fact, if he had listened to the customs of Masonry at all, he would have never committed such an atrocity.
I have a first edition copy of Morals and Dogma signed by Albert Pike sitting on the shelf right next to me as I write this reply - passed down to me by my great-great-grandfather, who was a Grandmaster when the book was first published. As to Pike’s work, I challenge any two people to read his ponderous musings and come to the same conclusion about what he meant. The work is esoteric, and meant to be so, but it’s also so vague and tenuous, that - like the writings of Nostradamus - it can be interpreted in any way a reader wishes to fit preconceived biases and notions. It is for this reason that the book is held up to such fanfare by conspiracy theorists as proof of Freemasonry’s evil intentions.
Albert Pike’s views of Freemasonry were never accepted by the Northern Jurisdiction, and even the Southern Jurisdiction stopped issuing complimentary copies of Morals and Dogma in 1974.
And as to why I joined, I joined because my father joined, and his father, and his father before that. In fact, we have family records of an unbroken line in Freemasonry that goes back well before the emergence of the Grand Lodge in 1717.
As to Masonic funerals, they take place in conjunction with the Christian funeral. They are not separate.
I know where I’m going when I die, and I’m comfortable with my choice - both in my faith, and in the brotherhood.
But it’s obvious you are not to be convinced. You are a conspiracy theorist of the highest order. It’s a shame that you won’t take the time to understand the other - much less breathless - version of the brotherhood. The one even Dan Brown discovered when he wrote The Lost Symbol: That the biggest secret of Freemasonry is...
...that there is no secret.
But that would be too easy, and much less exciting to believe.
Great information in your post there. The thread is based on an article that seems to me to be trying to at least obfuscate the real motives if the killer. Does not look like it is a religious motive. Does not look like his motives had anything to do with hid membership in a lodge either. How about the last sentence in the story: “Breivik had also been a member of the Progress Party, the second largest in parliament and a rival to the Labour Party.”
Could the motive be POLITICAL?
This monster is an abomination...not a Mason.
Is that your final answer?
Enjoy your eternity. Sounds like you will have company.
What fellowship does darkness have with light?
You cannot have a *Christian* funeral and a *Masonic* one.
Choose this day who you will serve.
Some people will just never believe in any sort of brotherhood. They say on this forum that they believe in the principles of Freedom..freedom of religion and thought and yet they continue to condemn and cause strife. Don’t waste your pearls. I’m moving on to higher ground. Have a good one.
I watched the whole thing too. He made some very good points about what is happening to Western Culture. But then he took a SICK turn. Killing 100 innocent kids, attacking his government violently -— all he succeeded in doing is to turn most heads AWAY from the important things he believed in, such as the Islamification of Europe. He hurt his cause and broke the heart of the Almighty as well. What he did is the OPPOSITE of serving G-d.
Just an observation while lurking here at the comments.
The level of discussion so far hasn’t made any fatuous links to well-known liberals. There has been no easy slander. I don’t remember any swear words. People have written about politics with intelligence and sourcing.
Just pointing it out. Carry on.
This massacre is going to have repercussions for sure...for real Christians. The man responsible was a Knights Templar Mason, but I don’t expect Masons to catch much heat, Christians will. I expect the Masonic politicians and Masons in the media to deflect away this man’s Masonic motivation.
The “Christianity” the media is going to make as his motive is bogus, he is a Knights Templar Mason for heavens sake, that’s his supposed “Christianity. True Christianity not. Blood oaths and secret occultic rites have nothing to do with true Christianity.
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