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Need your help to convert a democrat (not a liberal)asking difference between obama and Bush
Free Republic ^ | 7/20/11 | American Dream 246

Posted on 07/19/2011 10:07:36 PM PDT by American Dream 246

I talked with 2 nice guys yesterday - feeling that a door could be half open, I wanted to know exactly what was their position (politic). I knew they voted for Obama but they seemed to be open enough to hear about Palin and the new teaparty republicans. They asked me to email what Obama did wrong..yes..they don't know but they did not like Bush so they probably still on the "Bush fault" thingy. I would like to start with Clinton and the fact that everybody is saying he was a good president BECAUSE the Congress republicans so helped the economy - and I would like to keep on saying that the congress is democrat since 2006 under Bush. Everybody forget about that. And then Obama.

Does anyone knows the exact numbers when pelosi came to the senate in 2006 - jobs and deficit and expenses - then how much when Bush left - and then how much obama did as spending and awful things like nationalize car industry, welfare etc...sadly I don't feel I am good enough to write a good convincing and looking like non partisan diatribe to make sure I will win their vote for our side.

Please can you help? Thank you :-)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: bush; congress; debtceiling; economy; gopprimarees; obama; plain
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1 posted on 07/19/2011 10:07:39 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

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2 posted on 07/19/2011 10:11:54 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: American Dream 246
Nanny the red Pewlousie never came to the Senate. She was the first ‘woman’ to be Speaker of the House.... Might even call it a brothel under her.

Bush tried to be friends with these lying crooked liberals and they chewed him up and spit him out.

3 posted on 07/19/2011 10:12:19 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: American Dream 246
When Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave her inaugural address as speaker of the House in 2007, she vowed there would be “no new deficit spending.” Since that day, the national debt has increased by $5 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department. “After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: Pay as you go, no new deficit spending,” Pelosi said in her speech from the speaker’s podium. “Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.” Pelosi has served as speaker in the 110th and 111th Congresses. At the close of business on Jan. 4, 2007, Pelosi’s first day as speaker, the national debt was $8,670,596,242,973.04 (8.67 trillion), according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department. At the close of business on Oct. 22, it stood at $13,667,983,325,978.31 (13.67 trillion), an increase of 4,997,387,083,005.27 (or approximately $5 trillion).

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/10/over-5-trillion-new-debt-pelosi-promised-no-new-deficit-spending

Of course now, it's over $14.5 trillion.

"In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan."

http://www.cnsnews.com/node/72404

4 posted on 07/19/2011 10:14:36 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: American Dream 246

Bush was one of us. An American
baraq is not.

nuff said.


5 posted on 07/19/2011 10:14:53 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: American Dream 246

It seems like some enterprising person would be keeping an ongoing log, a chronology or perhaps a list by category (economics, foreign policy, ethics, education, etc) of everything Obama has done that is measurably harmful to our nation. (1. Socialist Obamacare, etc.) A website or something.

There are “rants” out there that point to his hours per week on the golf course and Michelle’s $30,000 ring and such, but I mean a serious itemization, not just to blow off steam. Maybe there even is such a Obamanation List here on FR. Well, if anyone knows of such a thing, it could help AD246 with his pals, and us too.


6 posted on 07/19/2011 10:14:56 PM PDT by baa39 (We're losing hope; keep the change.)
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To: American Dream 246

Tell them Obama in less than 3 years has added much more to national debt than Bush added in all of his 8 years.

Also Obama’s “stimulus” went largely to expand government and protect union jobs, which is an artificial maneuver and not a sound economic policy.


7 posted on 07/19/2011 10:17:11 PM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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To: baa39

Michelle has a $30,000 ring?


8 posted on 07/19/2011 10:17:21 PM PDT by sipwine
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To: americanophile

Thank you so much. That’s a very good start. And sorry about my mistake about Pelosi..speaker f the House..duh..


9 posted on 07/19/2011 10:17:31 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: baa39

Yes. that’s was I was looking for but could not find anything - like a list and something which would not be too partisan so that would be believable for them. Just comparable facts. That’s what I am looking for.


10 posted on 07/19/2011 10:20:50 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
Dear American Dream:

Check out "Through Obama's Eyes" at www.enterstageright.com. The kicker comes at the end of the article.

11 posted on 07/19/2011 10:20:53 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often)
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To: American Dream 246

Bush was OK until Pelozi and Reid got control of the Congress. In that sense Present-dent Obama is wrong when he says he inherited a bad economy from Bush. He got exactly what he wanted from his friends Nancy and Harry (courtesy of Frank and Dodd), and has been doing his level best to spend America into a third world economy ever since he got elected.


12 posted on 07/19/2011 10:22:02 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: American Dream 246

“Does anyone knows the exact numbers when pelosi came to the senate in 2006 - jobs and deficit and expenses -”

Pelosi inherited
5% unemployment
$250 billion deficit
$2500 billion budget

turned it into
9% unemployment
$1500 billion deficit
$3700 billion budget

$1trillion higher deficit and budget and 7 million jobs lost.

Compare their policies:
From 2002 to 2007, 6 million jobs were created in the 4 years after the bush tax cuts. Under Obama, we lost 2.5 million jobs since stimulus bill was passed.

The car is STILL in the ditch.


13 posted on 07/19/2011 10:22:26 PM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending!)
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To: repub4ever1
"Tell them Obama in less than 3 years has added much more to national debt than Bush added in all of his 8 years."

I believe 0bama and the democrat Congress actually added more debt during those first two years of his presidency than was added between the presidencies of Washington through George H.W. Bush. That's amazing, and almost hard to wrap your mind around.

14 posted on 07/19/2011 10:26:16 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: American Dream 246

Crossroads GPS: “Wake Up”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESAszBVMnC4&feature=player_embedded


15 posted on 07/19/2011 10:27:53 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: TheWriterTX

Thank you so much. I will read that.


16 posted on 07/19/2011 10:34:41 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: WOSG

Thank you :-)


17 posted on 07/19/2011 10:36:36 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

Less wars, debt and unemployment.

Oh, and dems always said he’d take social security away, Obama threatened it and hasn’t added a cost of living increase in two years (but the staffers and others got raises).

Bush also vacationed at his home, in these United States and didn’t fly around with an entourage to rival any rapper.

Ask them if Bush were doing things the O has, what would they say.


18 posted on 07/19/2011 10:36:46 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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I mostly have my right-wing Filipino buddy do the talking for me, especially when it’s a bunch of white dimwits with their signature liberal white guilt. He pretty much annihilates them and usually gets them into a brawl.

This was his latest on a libtard in Sta Monica and I pretended I didn;t know the guy (I was looking the other way while trying not to laugh):

HIM: “So how is it Bush’s fault again? This idiot kenyan has been in office for 3 effing years and he couldn’t so a damn thing. Remember “hope and change”? What was that nonsense?

LIB IDIOT: “Well, Bush started..”

HIM: “Blah blah, it’s like a car. You bring it to a mechanic and 3 weeks later, if the mechanic says “well, I can’t fix it because it was the OTHER mechanic’s fault”. You actually will accept that? Spare me your liberal white guilt, white boy. I;ll even bet you don;t have a single mexican, Asian or black friend because here in L.A., white people only mingle with other white people. Don’t worry, 10 years from now when you’re the really tiny minority, we’ll make you our slaves so keep voting Dem.”


19 posted on 07/19/2011 10:36:51 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: American Dream 246
When unemployment hit 5% under Bush the Dems and media were saying that signified the worst economy since Herbert Hoover when actually that is an extremely healthy number.

Obama and his economic team PROMISED during the campaign that unemployment would NEVER go over 8% on their watch. Well, now we stand at 9.2%...

20 posted on 07/19/2011 10:38:30 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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