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To: P-Marlowe

“Is there a single document expert in the world who has declared the BC to be genuine?”

Probably not. But that’s because real document authentification experts like those who are certified by the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners would never do an analysis of a third or fourth generation digitized scan of a document as opposed to an analysis of the original document.
If you wanted to find out if a twenty dollar bill was counterfeit, would you want to have an expert look at a scan of that particular twenty or would you rather that they have the original alleged counterfeit twenty in their hot little hand?
Every generation of reproduction can introduce its own set of artifacts into a copy. The first being, did the person who made the original copy clean the photocopier glass before making the first generation copy?

To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.


53 posted on 07/18/2011 8:26:06 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: jh4freedom

One *expert* who Fox used denied that he told Fox it was Legit.

Check this! If true, I would gladly miss my SS check!
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August 4th 2011, Millions of Senior Citizens Could File Suit Against President Obama

Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:33

Well well well, Mr. Obama has slipped up! what he fails to recognize is IF he does withhold Social Security Checks.. he opens himself up to millions of lawsuits! Did you know that on June 16, 2011 Supreme court of the U.S. decided Bond v. United States, 564 U. S. ____ (2011) that if Obama‘s actions or inaction’s cause financial harm to an individual or group of individuals, that they have STANDING to file suit against him!?!?!
Ever wanted a shot at taking him down? now could be your chance to have standing to sue him bowlegged and once and for all prove he is not who he says he is. ie; ss#, lfcb, colb, selective service fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, etc etc etc.
So kids, on August 4th 2011, you can file suit and have standing against President Barack Obama, Call your attorney NOW! don’t wait for the rush and reclaim what you not only earned but deserve!


54 posted on 07/18/2011 8:49:15 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: jh4freedom; xzins
To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.

All of this is hearsay. This document would not be admitted in any court of law as being the genuine birth certificate or a facsimile of the original. There is nothing to back up the fact that it is a copy of an original.

The issue could be resolved by Obama ordering a certified original and then giving the Certified Original to the press. He has posted a PDF on the White House web site with no documentation as to where it came from and there have been dozens of software engineers and documents experts who have not only questioned the authenticity of the document, but have declared it to be a fraud.

60 posted on 07/18/2011 10:05:31 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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To: jh4freedom
But that’s because real document authentification experts like those who are certified by the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners would never do an analysis of a third or fourth generation digitized scan of a document as opposed to an analysis of the original document.

Yours is such a BOGUS argument.

The Forensic Document Examiners you speak of are normally called upon to authenticate a document. To authenticate a document does require examination of the original. But that is not what we are doing here. We are involved in demonstrating that some document is not authentic from a copy of that document.

You might have a look at the London Times of October 26, 1995. According to the Times, Reginald Alton, whom they described as an Oxford Scholar and leading British handwriting expert, declared the supposed suicide note of Vincent Foster to be a poor forgery. Alton, of course, was not given access to the original torn note. All he used to make his pronouncement was the image of the note published in the Wall Street Journal.

ML/NJ

64 posted on 07/18/2011 10:54:56 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: jh4freedom
To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.

Presuming that what is being shown *IS* the original. I'm pretty sure that Barry's Kindergarten Administrators saw his original. Whether it looks like what he has now is another story.

79 posted on 07/18/2011 1:39:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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