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'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery
WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.

His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.

"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."

Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; corruption; corsi; eligibility; farahsfolly; forgery; hawaii; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; thistimeforsure; usurper; wnd
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To: jh4freedom
I lost all saved info on my computer a few weeks ago. I definately had the post regarding the Birth Index issue.
I believe it was Butter or LadyForest who's blog covered it.
Right now I can not remember what the blog address’ are or I would go find it.
If anyone has either address please post!
161 posted on 07/19/2011 12:20:54 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: x
"Corsi is this, Corsi is that ...."

A professional type setter is saying this, not Corsi.

No computer or pro type setter will vouch for this thing. None.

162 posted on 07/19/2011 12:38:45 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: x

a professional typographer with 50 years experience.....


163 posted on 07/19/2011 12:41:09 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: jh4freedom
The words that are on certified abstracts or copies of Hawai’ian birth records are: “I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file at the Hawai’i state Department of Health.—signed Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar.”

A short form Certification of Live Birth(COLB) from Hawai’i is an abstract. A long form Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii is a copy.

When the Health Director mentions that “Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies,” that statement is what she is referring to and it is applied via a stamp.

In her public statement she says it is the Original. In her stamp she says it MIGHT be the original, or it MIGHT be a fake. The stamp is INTENTIONALLY ambiguous. What's more, the previously used stamp was absolutely certain. "TRUE and CORRECT COPY OF ORIGINAL." Hawaiian Bureaucrats could use that stamp if they wanted to. The fact that they choose not to says what their affirmations are worth.

One of the people who have been following these threads has just enlightened me about something called an "Apostille." Apparently the problem of people providing fake credentials has been something Europe has dealt with for years. (Due to their claims of Aristocracy and Inheritances etc. Where ACTUAL proof is demanded. )

If I understand this correctly, an "Apostille" is a standard of proof which goes straight to the heart of this matter. It requires original documents, and they MUST be certified as "Original" by the issuing Governmental agency. Language such as "This is an Original record OR it could be a Jelly Donut" isn't good enough.

The existence of this "Apostille" is legal precedent (albeit foreign) for this birth certificate issue. It puts the lie to all the lawyers arguments about weak or ambiguous proof being just as good as strong and specific proof. Not for the courts of Europe it is not.

Just thought you'd like to know.

164 posted on 07/19/2011 1:21:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: charlene4
Post #10 a copy of BC where Mother’s address is a *BARRACKS* wonder why they didn’t just use this as his name when they copy and pasted the letters?

That would certainly have made the job easier. Most likely because they would have had to open dozens (or more) documents before they would likely have found one that said "Barracks." Not thinking they would find it, they probably just opened a couple and grabbed characters off of each. It may have been faster than looking for a closer word.

Like I said, I believe this document is the product of the Hawaiian DOH bureaucracy, pasted together as a new birth certificate per a judge's order. Bureaucrats do what is easiest.

165 posted on 07/19/2011 1:27:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
“I don’t write any of this to discourage people from seeking the truth about the birth certificate - far from it. The truth matters. But I do believe that doing so too loudly and making it a focal point can only hurt us.”

I respect that point of view. Till someone comes up with an unambiguous smoking gun, there is nothing wrong with pursuing our interests in this issue quietly. I would have thought that Free Republic wouldn't be all that overt anyway. Most of the Nation's population is busy interneting elsewhere. :)

166 posted on 07/19/2011 1:30:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: jh4freedom

is that you jamese 777?


167 posted on 07/19/2011 1:31:33 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Never mind all of the indications that the WH “document” is a forgery. Try sending in a scanned copy of your birth certificate as part of your application package for a passport or other important identity document and see how far that gets you. Think the relevant agency would be able to complete your application process? I’m thinking, not so much. But apparently a scanned document is good enough a credential for the most powerful office in the world.

One wonders why Bammy saw fit to go all the way to Hawaii, when a copy of his Original birth certificate exists in his Passport File in Washington DC. You remember that passport file? That's the one that a man was found murdered after he had been known to have rummaged through it. Of course if that passport file came into existence After 1983, Bammy's got some splanin to do!

168 posted on 07/19/2011 1:35:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
You Obots and your defeatist talk!
169 posted on 07/19/2011 1:38:33 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: GregNH
I would add that that very fact makes some individuals within the DoH in HI co-conspirators who at the very least has knowledge of a felony which is Misprision of a felony.

It's not a Felony when it is an ordinary legal process for creating fabricated birth certificates. Every state in the Nation produces replacement birth certificates for Adopted Children. There are two points in Obama's life when a possible Adoption seems reasonable. Upon Stanley Ann's Marriage to Lolo Soetoro, and When Stanley left Barry in the Custody of her parents. If EITHER event resulted in an adoption, Hawaii had to fabricate a new birth certificate for Barry. After Barry turned 18, he was free to get the Adoption overturned and his Original Name reinstated, but his Original Birth Certificate has been sealed by a court, so they still had to fake up a new one, even if it says the same thing as his old one.

*I* was adopted, and *I* have a fabricated birth certificate which is different from the one I was born with.

170 posted on 07/19/2011 1:42:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: jh4freedom
Finally, if anyone wants to see exactly what the state of Hawaii has on file or doesn’t have on file for Barack Hussein Obama II, they need a COURT ORDER from a judge to gain access to the file. A court order is NOT a subpoena. It must be issued by a judge. Hawaii law states that a copy of a confidential birth record can be released to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”—Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18 (b).

Is it too much to ask that an Article of the Constitution should outweigh the privacy law of a state? Be Honest.

171 posted on 07/19/2011 1:45:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: RobinMasters
Seems like there are two arguments being made for the LFBC being a forgery.

Argument #1: Some letters are the same, therefore it's a forgery.

Argument #2: Some letters are different, therefore it's a forgery.

That does pretty much cover all the bases...

172 posted on 07/19/2011 1:47:06 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Proof of incompetence by someone, Nicht Wahr?

Probably just lack of awareness. We don't know where the scan was made, but it was probably at the Hawaii DOH, Obama's lawyer's office, or the WH. In all cases, I can see the IT person installing the document archiving system and turning on the OCR part, because 90% of the time, that's what they'd want and they don't want the user to have to think about it. In this case, the user didn't think about it.

Somewhere in one of these threads "Bushpilot1" (I think) posted a link that purports to show what software was used to create the document. If I recall properly, he said it was some Apple application.

It's not really an application, it's a PDF handler built into OS X--I think it's what lets any Mac application "print" a PDF file. It doesn't tell us what software was used for scanning, or even for printing the PDF. I do know (I'm a Mac user) that there's a filter for "Reduce File Size" when you're creating a PDF in at least one Apple program--I don't know exactly what it does, though.

I think that theory does nothing to explain why the pixels of the "R" are 4 times the size of the pixels of all the other letters. If it thought it was part of the background, it would use the default pixel size.

It would be because after the letters were extracted from the background, the background was "downsampled" to a lower resolution. That "expert" I pointed you to before (I'm only using quotes because it's WND that labeled her an expert--I can't vouch for her myself) wrote:

The use of OCR software and image optimization have a number of other effects on documents. Each of these issues, which can result from OCR or optimization processing, may have led to the appearance of tampering and manipulation, and accusations of forgery.

Pixel size: In any scanned image, pixels are all the same size. Pixels in the President’s birth certificate, however, are not. The pixels around the optimized text are a much smaller size than the background pixels.


173 posted on 07/19/2011 1:47:53 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: jh4freedom
I’m trying to figure out a motive for Hawai’i officials under a Governor who endorsed McCain and gave one of Sarah Palin’s endorsement speeches to want to help Barry Soetoro.

Why is that hard to understand? From my perspective, The Governor is ignorant of the Federal issue involved, and places the state laws of her state in higher regard. In fact, it is not the Governor's job to insure compliance with Article II for an Election. That job falls to each State's election officials, who are ALSO incredibly ignorant of their responsibility in this regard. The Governor's job *IS* to enforce the laws of their state. If according to the laws of their state they are supposed to accept whatever the bureaucracy asserts, then that's what they will do.

All of this belies the point of why we allow the Tail of Hawaiian bureaucracy to wag the Dog of American Constitutional law!

174 posted on 07/19/2011 1:55:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: PA-RIVER
thought OCR was designed to translate graphic text into computer formatted letters. If OCR was used and letters were recognized, wouldn't the letters be perfect shapes?

My first knowledge of OCR was that it's purpose is to convert image text into ASCII (American Standard Code for information Interchange.) In other words, 7 bit binary representations of Alphanumeric Characters. This allowed the text information to be stored using much less space, and to be easily manipulated for content.

That it should have evolved other uses is plausible to me, though I don't see too much benefit in using it that way. One argument that I have heard is that some software will scan a document converting image data into Ascii, (thereby creating a "Text File") and then reconstitute an image file by finding the best image representations of the original data to create new letters on the output document using these created on the fly image tokens.

While I understand completely HOW this can be done, I haven't the slightest clue as to why anyone would want to do it, but as some software developers have peculiar notions about ways of doing things, it is plausible to me that someone might have actually come up with such a goofy system.

To Answer your question, Yeah, they ought to be perfect shapes if that is indeed what is happening. That is the big hole in the "Somehow the software created artifacts" theory.

It just now occurred to me that an application where you might want to create both manipuable text AND re-use the image components of the data used to create the text file is if you had a continuing need to modify existing documents to make it appear that the modified document was typed that way originally.

In other words, Say you had an old document that you needed to change something on yet make it still look like an old document. You could scan the image file, create a lookup table of Image files that correspond to the letters of the Alphabet, type in your modifications to the text, and have the document reprinted with the changes reproduced using the original images of the characters from your scan.

This would be a perfect tool for producing images of realistic looking modifications of old documents. Now who would have a use for such a software product? *I* *KNOW* !!!! Someone who has to create replacement birth certificates after an Adoption! The Department of Health in virtually every state could use a product like this.

One hitch might be that you can't find all the letters (both upper and lower case) of the Alphabet on the document you want to modify.(Leaving holes in your character replacement lookup table.) You'll have to get missing letters from somewhere else. Perhaps another document of a similar time period? Another hitch is that when you remove letters from an image file, or add extra letters from it, you have to overwrite existing letters or spaces on the original image file. Suppose you replace a Capitol "A" with a little "e". They aren't the same size, so you will have to "white out" an "A" sized space, to put your "e" over it, or you will have an "A" and an "e" superimposed over each other. This would tend to leave a "White Halo" around the Characters. It would probably just be best to "white out" all the space you need, and then just put the replacement image data over the "white space."

Hmmm. Just speculation, but it all seems to hang together pretty well. :)

175 posted on 07/19/2011 2:22:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: jh4freedom
2) Obama obviously thinks he’s eligible.

I recall reading that during the Alan Keyes/Barack Obama debate for the US Senate seat from Illinois, Keyes pointed out Barack was from "Kenya." To Which Barry replied (and I paraphrase till I find the actual transcript) "That doesn't matter, I'm Not running for President, I'm running for the US Senate! "

Doesn't sound like a man who believes he is eligible.

That’s why he wrote Dreams From My Father 13 years before he ran for President.

You need to read Jack Cashill's book on this subject. That is NOT why Barry started the book. Barry started the book because he was such a well spoken admirable young black man, that a publisher thought he should write a book and gave him an advance. Unable to write it for several years, and having to keep renegotiating the book he wasn't able to write, he finally turned all of his notes and material over to his friend "Bill Ayers", and Ayers wrote the book.

That’s also why he posted a COLB on the internet in 2008 and that’s why he released a long form in April.

He did both because the cries of FOUL! became too loud to ignore.

The Republican leadership in Congress think that he is eligible and the Supreme Court thinks that he’s eligible.

Yes, we should all be greatly relieved that the Republican Leadership in Congress is SO Knowledgeable and intelligent that they don't worry about this, yet a nitwit rolls them regularly.

You are not suggesting that Barack Obama is our first dishonorable president are you? Ever heard of Nixon or Clinton?

The difference between Nixon, Clinton, and Obama is that of a fart, a brown stain, and a big steaming pile.

176 posted on 07/19/2011 2:40:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
"I recall reading that during the Alan Keyes/Barack Obama debate for the US Senate seat from Illinois, Keyes pointed out Barack was from "Kenya." To Which Barry replied (and I paraphrase till I find the actual transcript) "That doesn't matter, I'm Not running for President, I'm running for the US Senate! " "

Any one have that on video or audio or a contemporary transcript?

177 posted on 07/19/2011 2:43:10 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: El Sordo
Argument #1: Some letters are the same, therefore it's a forgery.

Argument #2: Some letters are different, therefore it's a forgery.

That does pretty much cover all the bases...

Yeah, if you are an intellectual dwarf. When you come up with an explanation for a change in Pixel size and bit depth (Do you even know what "bit depth" means?) you let me know. Here is an example in case you missed it.


178 posted on 07/19/2011 2:45:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I do know (I'm a Mac user) that there's a filter for "Reduce File Size" when you're creating a PDF in at least one Apple program--I don't know exactly what it does, though.

What do you think of the teaching profession?

It would be because after the letters were extracted from the background, the background was "downsampled" to a lower resolution. That "expert" I pointed you to before (I'm only using quotes because it's WND that labeled her an expert--I can't vouch for her myself) wrote:

"The use of OCR software and image optimization have a number of other effects on documents. Each of these issues, which can result from OCR or optimization processing, may have led to the appearance of tampering and manipulation, and accusations of forgery."

"Pixel size: In any scanned image, pixels are all the same size. Pixels in the President’s birth certificate, however, are not. The pixels around the optimized text are a much smaller size than the background pixels."

Coarser pixels are "De-optimized." Not "Optimized. Under no circumstances does it make sense to coarsen the resolution. None. It makes even less sense to coarsen the resolution while at the same time increasing the bit depth. They are contra purpose to each other! It just makes stuff look fuzzy.

179 posted on 07/19/2011 2:58:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So how’s that working out for you?


180 posted on 07/19/2011 3:01:36 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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