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I had not seen this before but it is very interesting. I did what the youtube poster did and took the pdf from the Whitehouse website. I don't have photoshop but when I compare both the b's look the same. Maybe someone could reproduce what the youtube poster did and let us know how it turns out. Look at the video and someone good at figuring out the math of probability please tell me what is the probability that the both "b"s would match EXACTLY...right down to the pixel? 50 to 1, 500 to 1? What could someone really say to refute this? It seems like a smoking gun to me (that the document was manipulated) but what do I know.
1 posted on 06/26/2011 12:57:51 PM PDT by steadcom
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To: steadcom

I think the BC has been proven on many different levels to be fake.


2 posted on 06/26/2011 1:05:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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None of these things are anomalies. They are normal occurrences.

We used to use STEEL LETTERS to type ~ and they could do an incredibly fine job.

Typical electric typewriters back in the primitive early 1960s could produce letters to stand the ages. Manual typewriters in the hands of someone who knew what she was doing could do as well, but usually didn't because by then manuals were not being produced ~ just repaired ~ and wobbled around a bit from time to time and could be deflected from a perfect strike by an itch on your forearm.

3 posted on 06/26/2011 1:09:26 PM PDT by muawiyah (u)
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To: steadcom; bluecat6; RobinMasters; ml/nj; All

good job. i haven’t seen that one mentioned before.

but there are a lot more with identical pixels.
(you are correct, it’s impossible.)
and there is even a clear reason for the identical boxes by the forger a few pages down here, after:
“Two lines into the record I noticed that side-by-side, two blank ‘check boxes’ were also composed of identical pixels despite the fact that the ‘check boxes’ were originally hand-drawn when the blank form was created.”
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html

and there are many simple easy ones to show people:

ml/nj found a simple clear example, that anyone can do, even a non-techie:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2720608/posts?page=23#23
here’s another simple clear photo of evidence of fraud:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186343
Bluecat6 pointed out, that the very purpose of security paper, is to reveal fraud. and it does. (sorry, no link.)

and a few other quick ones:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/comparative-analysis-by-pro-graphics.html
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/13/research-summary-on-hawaii-birth-certificate-number-151-1961-010641/

...and of course, there is the Connecticut SSN, which needs no analysis, since it is clearly fradulent by definition, since he never lived in CT, it would be impossible to get.

and NO document expert has stood up and defended the LFBC.
but, CIA agents have said it is a fake:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2734826/posts
FN Contributor Maj Gen Vallely: Ret CIA Agents Look At Obama’s Birth Certificate, Say it’s a Fraud

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2735288/posts
Ex-CIA: ‘Forged document’ released as birth certificate

and much more, if you look for posts by Butterdezillion, Hotlanta Mike, ml/nj, and Satindoll.
Red Steel, Bluecat6, and Robinmasters, are also great sources of serious, well researched information.


5 posted on 06/26/2011 1:24:13 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: steadcom

Considering everything else that has come from this fraud, I shouldn’t have expected more in the way of his fake BC. The bum can’t do anything very well. The second BC is a bigger joke than the first one.


9 posted on 06/26/2011 1:28:29 PM PDT by pallis
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Hey don’t bother us conservatives, republicans or whatever we are with matters of “right and wrong” when there’s an election to win. lol.


13 posted on 06/26/2011 1:37:34 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: steadcom

Every expert agrees that the document is a fake. Hannity, Rush, BOR are too afraid of being called names to expose it.


17 posted on 06/26/2011 2:07:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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The BC issue is over and done with. Trump did exactly what he agreed to do.


19 posted on 06/26/2011 2:25:31 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: steadcom
Look at the video and someone good at figuring out the math of probability please tell me what is the probability that the both "b"s would match EXACTLY...right down to the pixel? 50 to 1, 500 to 1? What could someone really say to refute this? It seems like a smoking gun to me (that the document was manipulated) but what do I know.

It's actually highly probable depending on what scanning software is used, because that's what it's supposed to do. To make text more readable, the scanner will sharpen the text by overlaying a high-resolution character that matches the original as best as possible. Every time it does this, it creates a new custom font, which it will repeat when it recognizes another character that's nearly identical.

You can see this same effect in other scanned documents. For example, open this PDF file and observe the L's in the words "Intelligence Bulletin" (among many other cloned letters).

21 posted on 06/26/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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ref #16

“Sandra Lines said it best in her analysis of the work done by Pollard on the COLB. Paraphrasing - to determine the authenticity of a document you need - THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT”

Obfuscation anyone?

No one is saying his “original” is a fake. No one has seen it (if it exists).

The COPY, SCAN, of the purported original is a FAKE.

That we do have. The white house released it on the white house web site and Obama himself has claimed ownership of it.

SHEESH!

23 posted on 06/26/2011 3:05:01 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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WHY doesn't Obama release the original printed document now? The cat's out of the bag, right? Why is it the only document available for review today is *still* just a presumably "scanned-to-PDF" document, that in reality appears to be a "manufactured-to-PDF" document? Once again, Obama *could* quit the game playing and release the document as received from Hawaii, or the one found in the belongings kept from his youth. But no ... he's not honest ... he's not a leader ... he's not forthcoming. He is pathetic --- and the only reason he is still in office is that he is successfully playing against the notion of "innocent until proven guilty". The notion is a good one ... but we are remiss if we fail to understand how our enemies can use it against us (ie with respect to Islam, immigration, and Communism).


26 posted on 06/26/2011 3:56:14 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To all that are pursuing this:

The White House knows it’s fake, and they know that you know it’s fake. They’re just playing with you. They know you can’t do anything about it, no matter how many YouTube videos you create to explain to people that it’s fake.

The more frustrated you get, the more they enjoy it.

If Obama is going to be sunk, it will be because of his record: healthcare, the economy, the New Black Panther Party, bowing to foreign leaders, bombing Libya, selling out Israel. He can’t escape these things.


54 posted on 06/26/2011 8:58:09 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: steadcom


Microsoft Forger - Two Thumbs Up !! says Dan Rather ...
64 posted on 06/27/2011 8:44:40 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: steadcom
There are two versions of the document that were sent from Hawaii. One was printed on green hash paper and manipulated in the WH with layering and processing on layers. That's probably the one with "identical" B's. The other image is from the AP, and is probably a certified copy on plain paper (although there's no way to be sure). That version looks like this:

The top OBAMA is cut/pasted from 1c into the empty space above the OBAMA in box 8. Then I zoomed and screen snapped with no other processing. Clearly the B's are different (a little too different IMO).

133 posted on 06/29/2011 12:41:53 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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