Posted on 06/26/2011 12:57:41 PM PDT by steadcom
I took the exact pdf from the White House website and opened it in Photoshop. I then took a copy of the "Obama" name on one line and put it over the "Obama" in another line. The "B"s match exactly !! This is a statistical impossibility unless the document is a fake. No typewritter from 1961 will produce the exact letter on the pixel level.... The person who made the fake document forgot to make a different "B" on the pixel level. If you don't believe it, try it yourself in Photoshop.
That's going to be very difficult if the only thing left of that is an image on a microfiche.
One of the problems we have with the Hawaii crowd is they have a big building with file cabinets in it. Some people presume those file cabinets contain large record books with "originals" bolted in. Others presume that used to be the case but when they were photographed in the 1970s for the microfiche system the "original" paper versions were sent to the landfill and only the "certified original" microfiche copies were actually retained.
The people in Hawaii have continually used artful language to answer the question on "Original" ~ and "certified" is one of their preferred terms. So far not a one of the officials charged with some level of responsibility over their COLB preparation operation has come clean with a detailed explanation of how it works. I've been watching these stories closely and it just hasn't happened. Researching their bureaucratic information available over the net has not revealed the actual process.
Consequently, everybody interested in this topic has a process in mind that probably doesn't match the reality on the ground in Honolulu county.
“You still want access to the original piece of paper don’t you.
That’s going to be very difficult if the only thing left of that is an image on a microfiche.”
Why does that have to be difficult?
(maybe I’m the FOOL)
There was a vigorous rebuild trade at the time ~ I bought a rebuilt tank like hunk of iron that was stable enough to do straight lines of type. Built my forearms like nobody's business, but that and factory jobs to pay for college also helped.
If it’s decomposed in the Honolulu County landfill ~ 40 years back ~ it will be difficult to locate.
“Built [by] my forearms like nobody’s business”
My office still has hand stamps and not some contraption that is rigged to give all three hand stamps in the same position. :0)
Would that be similar to the fires that burned up all of Barry’s previous birth certificate documentation from before he usurped you?
Such brackets are for sale world wide.
So I guess 1961 could eventually be Morph-font-lated to be 2542.
I think your on to something. I once knew someone who would eat mushrooms and be able to do similar things.
Here’s a much better Youtube:
Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY
Downloading the PDF and opening it up in Adobe Illustrator clearly demonstrates “layers” of images which show how the document was assembled. There’s no possible way that the PDF posted to the whitehouse.gov website was a simple scan/copy of an original document.
http://whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
I strongly recommend YOU do some research before relying on your recollections. I did and found you were wrong in generalizing based on your own recollections of events a long time ago.
I use several things to clue in on what year it was I did something or encountered a certain device.
(1) I associate my college and higher education year by year, and within a year by where I lived. (2) I associate my ownership or use of various sorts of typewriters with what year I still lived at home, or was in highschool, or in college, and whether or not I was the editor of my dormitory newspaper. (3) I relate each year of my employment with its reference to specific college courses (which I can check on my computer ~ everyone should keep a copy). There were 3 different graduate programs BTW, over a period of years, with marriage mixed in, and employment.
Before posting a specific date for the appearance of a particular type of equipment, e.g. Royal Typewriters, Underwood Typewriters, manual, electric, spacing electric, manual or auto return (yes there were both on manuals), first computer (IBM 360 ~ remember those?), first laptop, first this and that by year associated with counts based on when kids were born, house purchased, car driven, and so forth, I always find a respected technology time-line site to reference in case of dispute.
So, where did I make a mistake? I never put anything on the net that I have not BEFOREHAND validated on the net or in a book.
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/modelb/modelb_history.html ~ great site for typewriter history. 1914 ~ by IBM’s estimation ~ that’s the year the first electric typewriter of value was introduced. BEFORE WWII, and actually BEFORE WWI ~ that’s 1915 ~ August or thereabouts eh.
Go back to your first post on this matter and make the appropriate corrections then. Manual office non-portable non-electric typewriters were still being made in the 1960’s. Manual non-electric typewriters are still being made.
To all that are pursuing this:
The White House knows it’s fake, and they know that you know it’s fake. They’re just playing with you. They know you can’t do anything about it, no matter how many YouTube videos you create to explain to people that it’s fake.
The more frustrated you get, the more they enjoy it.
If Obama is going to be sunk, it will be because of his record: healthcare, the economy, the New Black Panther Party, bowing to foreign leaders, bombing Libya, selling out Israel. He can’t escape these things.
Thank you, I was not aware of that.
I suspect Kleon is only aware of that because he gets his talking points from a group resource. (Perhaps fogbow or ObamaConspiracy.) Since he and others keep coming up with information that it is very unlikely for a single individual to know, it is quite likely he is taking advantage of "debunking" resources available to Obama Supporters.
I, for one am quite sick of hearing explanations invoking "magic software." The point is, a fudged up document is useless as proof of anything.
Yes, why settle for an original reproduction of a witness signature when we can have a NEW! DIGITIZED! version?
Crisper and easier to read is not an improvement over "true and correct."
Have you seen the articles regarding the different fonts of different letters? (comparisons of each letter with it's subsequent use in the document) It looks like 20 different typewriters were used to create that document. The difference is most noticeable regarding the letter "t", where the letter is so distinctly different from one iteration to another that it simply cannot be argued they were typed on the same type writer. The fonts are completely and significantly different.
I'll see if I can find that article for you.
muawiyah,
Please post the name and link to even **one** document and fraud expert who is willing to put his reputation on the line. Even one expert who will declare Obama posted birth certificate to be valid and not forged will do.
One name and one link please.
Does Obama pull the wings off flies for fun? So...What would he do if he had a concentration camp to use for his sick fun and pleasure?
The fellow who owns FR has a vast amount of experience in most of the related fields. He's probably a little short in the old time intaglio and impression printing fields, but he's certainly well experienced in scanning and laser printing.
He's provided opinions.
I've provided opinions based on my over 45 years experience in typing, printing, scanning, mail processing, studying industrial processes involving mail preparation (printing, scanning, paper characteristics, paper manufacturing, vacuum technology in industrial applications), lighting industrial work spaces, document authentication, etc.).
You can take the word of experts in those fields or not. It's up to you.
The claim that a CIA agent or two had expressed an opinion probably isn't as weighty a matter as some Freepers might imagine. To me they were just another customer ~ the whole intelligence industry worldwide uses US post office boxes in their business. Certainly enough of them have called me from time to time ........ it's not like they're an endangered species.
Now, about "one expert" who will or will not declare Obama's COLB to be valid and not forged ~ give 'em a call. You've heard from me and others here who have certainly had the time and experience to provide valid opinions.
What I've told you and others is that either it's legitimate or it was done by a very good forger who understood printing, typing, rubber stamping, paper performance, and normal business/office record keeping practices over a full 50 year period.
I suspect the latter, but it could be the former.
So, you want me to let an amateur in on the discussion or what?
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