The New Barbarians of Secession

When secession finally occurs in the first American state, it will come first from the New Barbarians, not from the state house.

This article explores the definition of the word “Barbarian,” and how I perceive that secession will be moved forward into reality by the New Barbarians.

From Wikipedia: “Barbarian” is a pejorative term used to refer to a person who is perceived to be uncivilized. The word is often used either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior, or admired as a noble savage. In idiomatic or figurative usage, a “barbarian” may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person. The primary function of the word “barbarian”, and its cognates, is to differentiate members of one’s own society from people perceived as being outside of it, and to posit that one’s own culture is superior.

In history, the Barbarians were the Germanic tribes that overthrew the Roman Empire. Rome had become an empire covering most of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, and the cost of their armies and wars was bankrupting the government. Rome had conquered these vast areas, and conscripted many of the tribal warriors into the Roman armies. But the barbarians never lost their identification with their tribes, and eventually the Visigoths sacked Rome in 410 AD.

The present American society’s elected ruling class is filled with “the cream” of our civilization from bottom to top. But smelling of cologne and wearing expensive suits, they pillage, sack and destroy our free enterprise system through taxation and regulation. So they operate like barbarians under the cover of respectability and the citizens’ acceptance of their roles in the American government. They are the old guard, much like Rome at its end. Bloated, corrupt and hopelessly overextended, the ruling class can see their demise just over the horizon. But they cannot wrap their brains around a solution that includes the breaking apart of the United States of America by secession.

You think that the power structure of Washington doesn’t see the end coming fast? Watch this video from Ready.gov, a division of FEMA.

Dear readers, that “world upside down” video is not just about a tornado or hurricane. It is easy to see how this Public Service Announcement is meant for the coming economic collapse. If the very government causing all of this chaos is telling you openly to prepare for disaster, perhaps you should listen? There is another Ready.gov PSA I just saw in the past few days that is not available to post quite yet. It features a husband and wife being interviewed about how much food they have in the house to survive on in an emergency. They very matter-of-factly state that they have a little rice, some beans, a few cans of tuna, and some canned tomatoes. They seemed blithely unconcerned.

Do you still believe that the ruling class in any state government will voluntarily band together and secede from the Union? Think about all of the ways that Washington taxes and spends. Now consider that most of that taxation and spending is entirely unconstitutional. Now consider that Washington taxes and then sends hundreds of billions of dollars back to the state governments annually so the money can be spent on the local level. From roads to public safety to welfare payments to mortgage guarantees to myriad other programs, your state and local governments are complicit in the crimes of Washington. They are accessories after the fact. If someone steals property and you receive it, you’re as guilty as the perpetrator.

It is impossible for Washington to do what it does without the voluntary cooperation of the 50 state governments. Do not kid yourself. What the states do is entirely voluntary. The state politicians might bitch about unfunded mandates or DC regulations or Supreme Court rulings, but states have ALL the power to resist or just simply stop the Washington madness. But the states do not stop it. What does that tell you?

1. They cannot forsake fractional reserve banking (counterfeiting). 2. They cannot reign in spending because of entitlement programs. 3. They cannot increase interest rates to curb inflation since that would make the debt payments balloon upward. 4. They cannot stop allowing the Federal Reserve to control the money supply (more counterfeiting). 5. They cannot fund the outstanding and future pension commitments, and cannot cover the pension defaults. 6. They cannot stop selling Treasury bonds to borrow more money, and cannot prevent the inevitable default of the bond market. 7. They cannot cease military expansion and war. 8. They cannot prevent the collapse of the US Dollar as world reserve currency. 9. They reject free-market solutions for all problems, and continue to fiercely defend Keynesian economics. 10. States are so inured to Federal funds that they are unwilling to even try to control Washington.

Witness all the cities, townships, counties and states that are functionally bankrupt. They can thank their betters in Washington for a fiat money system and decades of inflation for their present situation. And they can look in the mirror to see who enabled Washington to become the most criminal government in history. Yes…even more criminal than the USSR. The Soviets did not defraud the entire population of the planet with fiat money. Washington did.

The concept of state secession will have to come from the grassroots…the ordinary people…the great unwashed…the New Barbarians. Politicians are not leaders. My opinion is that a person cannot voluntarily agree to work in a criminal enterprise without becoming a criminal. (Ron Paul, call your office.) And while we all love a story of a bad boy turned good…or of a missionary to the heathen…we cannot expect government shills to voluntarily bite the hand that feeds them and promote a philosophically opposite concept. A few solons might get religion about secession, but I believe that most will oppose it. And the ones that do convert to the church of secession should be watched very carefully, since it would appear that they are simply trying to lead a new parade by running out in front of it. If a politician wanted to convince me of his altered beliefs, let him switch to secession now…while it’s still wildly unpopular.

The New Barbarians will develop as a tribe, rising voluntarily from the citizenry, with individual liberty, property rights and sound money as the organizing and sustaining principles of the tribe. (I wrote about tribes HERE.) For the purpose of this article, the word “tribe” is defined as “a social group comprised of numerous families, clans, or generations together with dependents or adopted strangers, all having a common character, occupation, or interest.” I am not suggesting that the New Barbarians will adopt all the characteristics of tribes. But I am suggesting that the New Barbarians will forsake the old ways of the US Constitution, and begin thinking as a single nation instead of a 50-state confederation. Most of the Constitution doesn’t apply to a single sovereign nation.

Think about secession for just a moment. There is no perceivable benefit for ANY present American state to continue as a member of the United States of America. I issued a challenge long ago for any reader to prove JUST ONE benefit of statehood. I’m still waiting. Yet, ALL of the unsolvable problems created by Washington and enabled by the States EVAPORATE at the moment of secession. No US taxation, no US regulation, no US national debt, no US wars, no more interference from Washington. In one instant, that state’s hard drive is wiped clean and they get to invent THEIR OWN new operating system.

The Founding Fathers of the mid-18th Century were the New Barbarians of their time. Their numbers were small. Their cause was individual liberty and property rights, and to be thirteen sovereign nations. Only 56 men signed the Declaration of Independence. It’s commonly accepted that those in favor of throwing off the tyranny of King George numbered less than 10% of the population of the 13 colonies. The rest of the colonials waited to see who won, and supported the winner.

The archetype of the New Barbarian is Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement. Miller has been working for years for Texas Independence, not as a cause célèbre, but as a holy calling. He is a businessman from Nederland, Texas, dedicated to convincing his fellow Texans that their state’s highest purpose is as a new sovereign nation, not as just another American state. He crisscrosses Texas, speaking to home meetings as well as big crowds, reminding Texans of their heritage and culture, and offering the hope that Texas could actually escape from America and its coming catastrophic collapse and become a nation once again. In my opinion, the name of Daniel Miller should be at the very top of any list of potential first Presidents of a new Texas nation. Guys like Rick Perry and Ron Paul have careers as part of the problem, not as part of the solution.

The numbers of New Barbarians will explode after the economic collapse in America. There are only a few of us that are presently ideologues promoting secession. But once America descends into chaos, those that rejected the concept of secession will still be looking for answers that work…not more of the same. And they will be desperate, not willing or able to wait for government to offer some lame-assed pseudo-solution, or another Ponzi scheme to replace the one that just collapsed. At that point, the tribe will grow very quickly. Mass migrations of people will occur, as individuals and families pack up and move to the new nations.

One of the topics that most proponents of secession will not talk about is defending a secession by militia. I’m not saying that secession has to be done by some form of physical force, but I’m also not saying that military defense won’t be required. I keep the collapse of the Soviet Union foremost in my mind. Here was a purely communist 15-republic Union that simply dissolved in 1989. The giant Red Army did nothing. The Kremlin was powerless to stop secession. I believe that Washington will likewise be powerless to stop American states from secession. But I believe that DC will only be powerless after the dollar collapses.

The push for secession will come up from the people, not down from the politicians. Political power only acknowledges superior force. If the politicians fear the People, they will carry out the will of the People. When the People fear the government, there is only tyranny.

Sounds good at a very general level. What SPECIFICALLY do you intend to do to make them give it all back. What, for instance, do you plan to do with California?

The GOP is not an empowered majority, they hold 1/2 of one branch of the legislative branch. And 1/2 f them are RINOS and they don’t seem to be able to use that perch effectively.

What, EXACTLY, are you willing to do to fix the USA? Seccessin seems more plausible than what it would really take to fix America in the way you suggest.

Go back and see how Chile dealt with their leftists in power. Military Coup followed by two decades of death squads that killed labor leaders, leftists, radical priests, opposing party members who got carried away, and anyone else they deemed a threat.

Chile is the least leftist country in SA as a result, probably not likely to be the next Venezeula.

That’s the only working example I can see. You say we’re tough when backed into a corner. Really? We’re there, aren’t we? Where is the toughness?? I don’t see it.

You know what else seems to be an underlying speedbump to this idea...

They don’t think there is enough resistance or guts to go through with it if they push too much...They honestly and foolishly believe we won’t fight back...

Of course at first we are doing it within the system, doing it every two years, we get a chance to change things within the system...That’s the trenches we live in now...

Like I’ve always said...No matter what happens, the sun will still come up and set everyday...How our day goes is up to us...

And to those on this very website (and this thread), I believe that do not want to do anything to upset their own personal applecarts and fight to keep their personal bubbles intact, until it is too late...I wish them well in their mediocrity...

First of all, you’re right that IS very general - bascially because it isn’t really a great nor smart idea to say publically “What SPECIFICALLY” or “EXACTLY” do you intend to do...”, etc. Especially on a forum that is trolled daily by the other side and various alphabet agencies looking for any excuse to do a 4am flashbang boogie.

We ALL know exactly what it will take. And yes, the will to do those things necessary is the key factor. I’ll do whatever is required of me when the time comes. Those that have been preparing ahead of time already know what they’ll need to do.

As far as secession goes - again, why the hell should WE leave? We’re not the ones F***ing the country up.

I don’t pretend to have the answers, Jack; I only know that I’m not going anywhere. This is MY home, this is MY land, and I’ll not give it up.

As far as Chile goes, I know history, brother. And they did to the Left what the Left was eventually going to do to them. Do you seriously believe the US military would do a coup de tat on this admin? If they haven’t by now, with all the crap that this shoeshine boy has foisted on them, it’s just not going to happen.

RE Tough: Look in the eyes of some of the folks at Tea Party meetups. It’s there. It takes guts for people who’ve never organized before to show up at these things. And for those who are “awake” and really know what’s going on, it’s our job to educate those who DO show up and wake them up too.

And look in the eyes of folks that you should be training with. It’s there too. You should by now already know who you can and can’t trust to be tough when the SHTF.

No, I don’t think we’re backed in the corner - yet. The system is still workable. Election day 2012 will show whether we’re backed in the corner or not, to my mind.

We’re on the same side, bro. Just seeing it differently.

Patrick1 wrote: “I’m sorry, but the idea of secession is idiotic. When did the nuts take over here at FR? We get birth certificates, Ron Paul, pit bulls and now this.”

Is advocating secession even allowed on Free Republic?

That’s a serious question. I’ve been reading here for a long time, though not participating in discussions much until recently, and I thought I remembered a ban on advocating secession, but I could be wrong. Perhaps Jim Robinson can clarify his rules.

For whatever it’s worth, I believe secession is neither prudent, possible, or helpful. Give the liberals enough time to wreck the economies of their states and cities, and much of their political power will disappear, just as happened with the former Soviet Union.

Under current political conditions, the most likely secession we’ll deal with in the foreseeable future would be the crazies in California who want to create “Greater Azatlan” or some such nonsense by recovering their Mexican heritage. That’s not very likely but it’s much more likely than a conservative secession. Letting the California crazies secede to join Mexico or start a new country might not be a bad idea — presuming they have the votes to do so and are willing to accept a division of the state comparable to the West Virginia precedent allowing counties that want to stay in the United States to do so.

If you go back and read the comments from various Freepers I don't think anyone really took the authors side and came out for secession strongly.

When a topic gets to the point of being widely discussed in the news then we are going to post it and talk about it. Walter Williams wrote a similar article about 6 years ago called "Time for a Divorce", it was published and widely discussed here.

I don't think merely discussing a well written, if ideologicaly flawed article really merits either your concern for me violating rules and subsequent flagging of the owner, nor Patrick1's sarcastic and insulting comments.

Hopefully one aspect of being a conservative is allowing other people to discuss topics you may not personally enthusiastic about as long as they are maintaining decorum, as I believe all the posters did on this thread.

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