Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid
He died suddenly, as the result of an auto-accident apparently. If that visit reported by a member of the family (not named in the article) was in 1983, shortly afterwards, it's my opinion the purpose of that journey, which appears to have been undertaken by Stanley Ann Dunham, zero and Alice Dewey...was to insinuate SAD and zero into the family, and make a claim on the estate for the personal possessions of the kenyan. There might have been letters and documents, records...they would not want to fall into the hands of others. They were apparently unsuccessful. Mark inherited the personal possessions of his father. As for the land, the elder brother, Joseph/Yusuf, with whom the kenyan went to school at Maseno, who was two years older...as the eldest son of Onyango Obama, that would automatically be his by right. It's not difficult to work out the reason for the 1983 journey to kenya IMO.
And “funny” that Zero showed up the year after the Kenyan Obama died; although no doubt the Kenyan would have gone along with the game plan, as a drunk, who knows what he’d say. So they waited until he was gone to make the big pilgrimage.
I read earlier today that Kenya had, and still has, a law recognizing multiple marriages for Muslim Kenyan men.
In other words, if SAD went to Kenya to give birth, her son would be legitimate. Perhaps that also allowed him recognition as a member of the Luo tribe, as well.
Thanks, SatinDoll.
You are most welcome.
That’s correct. Great Britain had an agreement with the Sultan of Zanzibar, the nominal ruler of Kenya’s Coast Province, that it could be included as part of British Kenya as long as Muslims were permitted to follow sharia law.
Which, of course, included multiple wives as a legitimate thing.
But although the institute of marriage has been progressively falling apart in the U.S., multiple wives have never been legal, as was demonstrated by the Mormon controversy in the 19th century. A second marriage is considered bigamous. And of course Obama senior was already married before he married Stanley Ann—if in fact he did, since we have never seen a marriage certificate, only a certificate of divorce.
Ah, I am dense. The personal effects of the Kenyan Obama including sensitive papers hadn’t crossed my mind. Of course!!! So Mark has all those personal papers. I hope Mark watches his back carefully...
Welfare and voting fraud. The Democrats refused to admit Alaska to the Union until the Republicans agreed to admit Hawaii. At the time, Alaska was reliably Republican, and Hawaii was reliably Democrat.
And the Democrats were developing their habit of putting minorities on the welfare plantation, and admitting more immigrants from third-world countries, or countries whose citizens were likely to vote Democrat.
Machine politics has always run rampant in Hawaii. So they liked the idea of pretending that illegal aliens were citizens, even back then.
It's my opinion that the last sentence in that Memo has been added later...the extension could have been granted on the basis of the information that ends with the word KENYA. One observant freeper noted; as both the Memo and the application show the same date, why was the additional information not entered on the application itself?
See the way the name Barack Obama is written? Both are NOT written by the same hand...
Another strange item: Barack senior does not seem to know his wife's name, because he wrote "Ann S. Dunham" when he should have written "Stanley Ann Dunham". That is, why Barack senior would put the "S" for "Stanley" in the middle of his wife's name instead at the beginning is strange to me.
That Ann S Dunham corresponds to the Ann S Obama discovered in the Polk directory:
Not too far fetched to think that Ann S Dunham/Obama might have been the girl at the Nachmannofs, using the surname of Dunham? She's identified here as ANNE/USA:
Also, his address on the form dated Aug. 31, 1961 is different from the address on Obama's long birth certificate that Obama released on April 27, 2011.
yes...
My point is this about the address: Either Barack senior and Obama's mother moved to the address on the form just days after Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961, or Barack senior kept paying on his apartment at his old address while living with Obama's mother at the address on Obama's long form birth certificate, or, worse, Barack senior never lived with Obama's mother as husband and wife, and that is the reason why his address on the form is different from the address on Obama's long form birth certificate that Obama released on April 27, 2011.
It's beyond me...it's also possible that their relationship was being hidden from the girl's parents, isn't it? He was also obtaining funds from the two women attached to the original sponsors, maybe they would not have been so free with funds if they knew he was 'married' ?
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/its-a-date/
Sharon saw the same index freeper Ladysforest saw.
thanks, of course I noticed that...water off a duck's back!
Anyone have a passport to look and see what that bottom line is?
See p. 51 for what endorsements? And where’s this p. 51? Sort of silly for it to refer to some other set of government regulations when no one has the regs in front of them. It certainly can’t mean p. 51 in the passport or that’d make one heavy read of a book.
Well, okay, but in the 1960s when the federal officials asked the Hawaiian officials about Barack Obama that process wouldn’t have gotten very far yet, so the probability that officials would have lied was far less than it might be at a later date. Things were a lot stricter when we still had the draft and the FBI had teeth and wasn’t afraid to use them and “sanctuary cities” were barely conceivable.
HI is soooo full of bs. Bet they couldn't have cared less who looked at what 3 years ago. Gee, whatever could have happened to have changed their policies....
Perhaps the half brother Malik did grow up with the guy who originally had the name BH0 and may be known now as Roman 0bama.
Thanks, little jeremiah. Is this where the 'substitution' took place? - Complicated...
A passport with extra pages has 52 pages. Mine also says see page 51 for endorsements. A passport without extra pages has less pages, I forget how many. It used to be free to get the extra pages now they charge extra at time of issuance.
To quote the usurper, “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”
I think it's because the truth really scares some people...I mean, look what have we here? The possibility that neither the parents nor the place or date of birth of zero are known beyond doubt.
I keep posting Ladyforest's research and he ignores it...
The Archives MAY have a microfilmed copy of the ORIGINAL handwritten marriage index books. As to the certified copy of the marriage cert., you can certainly email HI and ask the steps you would need to take to obtain one.
I tried to obtain a certified divorce cert. for a Honolulu couple who had a kid same day (?) as obama, and they first were really accommodating, explaining it was kept off site, and it would take about ten days to get. Then I sent the names.
Two weeks later, nuthin. Emailed to ask status, a week later, nuthin. I forget how many emails I sent before they finally let me know they had some crap that was basically like the publicly available index data books in that it wasn’t a “full” copy of the original record, certified. It was some sort of “summary”.
I’d have to go back through my stuff. I decided against buying the “summary”.
Just for grins I once called our local vital stats office and asked if I could come in and view an index book. Basically I was told HELL NO! Here you can’t even look at your own entry.
I know...won't do any good, my memory is still working:
A Redacted Computer print-out, allegedly of the Hawaii Birth Index for surnames beginning with "Ob"
THE DOCUMENT THAT POST AND E-MAIL SHOWED ON THEIR WEBSITE.LINK
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