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Weekend Libertarian ^ | 9 June, 2011 | B.P. Terpstra

Posted on 06/08/2011 6:37:40 PM PDT by AustralianConservative

I’ve been to Amsterdam and the revolution is a lie. Troubled by the Netherlands failed social experiment on teenagers, however, the Soros-backed Cato Institute and other Woodstock libertarians have been singing the praises of socialist Portugal’s soft-on-drug ethos, and hoping to hell we wouldn’t ask too many critical-thinking questions.

The faithful still claim that crime in Portugal has gone done since their nation went soft on drugs. But what’s gone down is their economy, an economic basket case. Moreover, the Portuguese have a history of fiddling with crime statistics. Or to quote my local newspaper:

A Melbourne woman was murdered in Portugal and her death covered up by police there, a Sunday Herald Sun investigation has found.

Former international model and fashion executive Jacinta Rees was hacked to death with an axe at her cottage in the Algarve, in southern Portugal, two years ago.

Portugal is cool!

But even official statistics can’t hide what I call the peaceful terror that is progressive Portugal. Somehow drug-first libertarians and open-borders libertarians are always missing the bloody stories:

The official data show that in the third trimester of the year (the summer months) violent criminality rose more than 16%, a substantial portion of the overall 10% rise in criminality last year, which concerns the most violent cases.

Portugal is cool!

Drugs Free America Foundation’s Calvina Fay knows:

Studies show Portugal is a classic example of what not to do. Drug-induced deaths in Portugal climbed to 314 in 2007 - significantly more than the 280 deaths recorded when decriminalization started in 2001.

Altogether now: Portugal is cool!

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; crime; debt; default; globalism; mrleroy; portugal; propaganda; slavery; smearfinancier; spookydude
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To: AustralianConservative
If they legalize pot in the US... I am opening a snack franchise called “Munchies are US”... all employees will be dressed as munchkins and will breathe Helium when they speak. Our menus will be blurry... just for fun. Sometimes we will play the White Album or The Wall backwards for effect.

LLS

21 posted on 06/08/2011 8:35:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES... a Conservative subsidiary of Reagan's party)
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To: AustralianConservative

Well, I am certain every conservative would agree that social behavior can best be shaped by the State. That is why all conservatives support Michelle Obama and the Progressives’ attempt to finally win the War on Obesity. /s


22 posted on 06/08/2011 8:35:48 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: familyop
We're entering a depression that may have a powerful effect against vices, bureaucratic thieveries and hyper-interests for global concerns.

The New Deal was a product of the last depression (and the federal drug war the bastard child of the New Deal). The beltway bureaucrats have learned well that you don't waste a perfectly good crisis.

23 posted on 06/08/2011 8:36:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: boop
...how is that different than someone who drinks and drives ... or even sipping a beer at the beach?

You're high.

24 posted on 06/08/2011 8:40:02 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: familyop

While you were studying fallacies, did you happen to notice one about “oversimplification and exaggeration”?


25 posted on 06/08/2011 8:42:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: boop

800,000 is 10% of 300,000,000? or are you extrapolating to those presumably millions of unarrested pot smokers? 10% of the public might be just a wee bit closer to 30,000,000.


26 posted on 06/08/2011 8:49:26 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: familyop

So explain your position, it’s a fallacy as well. Yours is a truth because you say so? You’ve no idea you you’re talking Friend.


27 posted on 06/08/2011 8:58:32 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: AustralianConservative

Husband bought some safes at a government auction; they had been confiscated by authorities in a drug bust. Got them home, opened them and there were some snippets of marijuana in the bottom of one (just residue), and some residue of white powder in the other one. Ah, maybe it was just where some potpourri and powdered sugar got spilled in them. All perfectly innocent I am sure.


28 posted on 06/08/2011 9:09:31 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: AustralianConservative
Drug-induced deaths in Portugal climbed to 314 in 2007 - significantly more than the 280 deaths recorded when decriminalization started in 2001.

Significant? Seriously? The difference between 280 and 314, especially when not controlling for population and immigration variations, strikes me as completely statistically insignificant. Two arbitrarily chosen data points varied by what? 12 percent? Proof of absolutely nothing. What about 2008? What about 2003? Can you demonstrate a trend? Ever studied statistics? Sure doesn't seem so.

29 posted on 06/08/2011 9:24:48 PM PDT by Minn
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To: boop
...or even sipping a beer at the beach? That’ll get you arrested/fined too. It’s NOT a good thing

It's hard to imagine a greater crime against humanity than sipping a beer at the beach, other than smoking a joint at the beach, of course.

30 posted on 06/08/2011 9:30:42 PM PDT by Minn
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To: jmacusa
"You’ve no idea you you’re talking Friend."

Wow, man. Far out.


31 posted on 06/08/2011 9:34:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: tacticalogic

Commies can’t maintain big government with no large manufacturing base and a currency that’s worth squat.


32 posted on 06/08/2011 9:40:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: microgood

Not all welfare.

Just where it is foreseeable and preventative.


33 posted on 06/08/2011 9:55:09 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: boop
800,000 pot smokers arrested per year?

Marijuna arrests for 2009

10% of the public are potheads?

Noone really knows this since it is illegal. This site

The NSDUH Report

Has the following quote:

In 2003, more than 25 million persons (10.6 percent) aged 12 or older reported past year use of marijuana.
34 posted on 06/08/2011 10:16:47 PM PDT by microgood
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To: familyop
Our various levels of American government are headed toward default and will not cut spending enough to avoid it. Even those in local government offices cling to what they perceive to be power.

We're entering a depression that may have a powerful effect against vices, bureaucratic thieveries and hyper-interests for global concerns.

Agreed. And when it happens, the drug war and drug warriors will be thrown under the bus.

Now that's going to be popcorn material!

35 posted on 06/08/2011 11:02:49 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: arthurus

Microgood said that 20-30 million people in the US smoke pot. THAT’s 10% of the population. He said 800K are arrested. I was questioning both points.


36 posted on 06/08/2011 11:32:17 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Minn

Oh, it’s real easy. Smoking a cigarette at the beach. That’s a much greater crime. California made sure it was a TOP priority.


37 posted on 06/08/2011 11:40:56 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: AustralianConservative

“What war on drugs?”

The one we are wasting billions on


38 posted on 06/09/2011 12:33:33 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: AustralianConservative

Soros-backed CATO institute? Really now...


39 posted on 06/09/2011 2:05:56 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: familyop

I thought I might have been speaking to someone who was intelligent. I see now I was wrong.


40 posted on 06/09/2011 3:24:09 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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