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IS OBAMA’S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PART OF A MANUFACTURED FAKE IDENTITY?
1 posted on 05/16/2011 1:21:45 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

someone should sue the social security administation and make them talk- they got the goods on obozo- hes probally a illegal alien


2 posted on 05/16/2011 1:27:12 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: Hotlanta Mike

His past WILL become known and then the American people will find out just how big a scam they have been party to. That entire jail the feds want in western Illinois will not be large enough to hold all the co-conspirators in this elaborate scheme to suborn the Constitution and conduct a coup d’etat. They found the black boxes on that Air France crash in the Atlantic. They will find out the data on the pResident too. There are people who know where the ‘bodies are buried’ Someone will become scared enough to talk as a reward for immunity and a new identity.


4 posted on 05/16/2011 2:12:11 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Daniels also located two social security numbers associated with Michelle Obama, one of which Daniels stated does not belong to her.

Juicy!

6 posted on 05/16/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Call me a dummy, but I don’t understand the story. The number originally was obtained when Barry was 15.

Susan Daniels says it may have been sought by an 87-year-old who needed medical care, i.e., Medicare. But a) why would someone that old/destitute not have applied for SS benefits AND Medicare many years earlier? and b) if that individual HAD applied for benefits, then Social Security Death Index would have recorded when that individual died (surely no one is claiming this 120-year-old individual is still alive).

Then I’m trying to square this with Daniels saying the card wasn’t actually used until 1985. Why would Barack Obama apply for a card at age 15, but not use it for identity until age 27?

Finally, I don’t understand Madelyn Dunham’s role. Leave aside that it’s shocking for someone in such a high position to literally risk her job snooping around in records she knows she shouldn’t, all with the aim of securing an illegal SSN for her grandson. Did Bill Ayers’ quite respectable parents assist HIM in securing fabricated SSNs on behalf of babies who had died? No, it sounds like he did all this dirty work all by himself. Did Madelyn Dunham allegedly do this when Barry was 15? But if he got a card at 15 to use, say for a job, then why doesn’t Daniels’ investigation show any addresses associated with that card between 1977-1985? This goes back to what motivation there would be for securing a card in 1977 that never was going to be used until 1985. It defies logic.

But perhaps I misunderstand the facts in this case.


8 posted on 05/16/2011 3:02:40 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The reason these Acorn types have multiple SS numbers is to establish multiple identities so as to get more welfare benefits.


10 posted on 05/16/2011 3:30:21 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The lists are available here
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Taitz-v-Astrue-Exhibit-4B-of-8-to-first-amended-complaint.pdf


14 posted on 05/16/2011 3:59:34 PM PDT by DrinkDeep (Drink Deep the water of life (Heinlein))
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If Ayers generated a fake identity for Obama in the early ‘80’s, no Madelyn or elderly gentleman born in 1890’s speculation is needed!

From the article:

“Editor’s Note: The following two paragraphs are the information which Ms. Daniels sent us quoted from Ayers’s Fugitive Dreams:

“After the Baltimore fiasco, stealing ID was forbidden. Instead we began to build ID sets around documents as flimsy as a fishing license or a laminated card available in a Times Square novelty shop called “Official ID.” We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates. I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisconsin, Illinois and North Dakota,searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another. Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates—available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form with information I could copy from the death announcement at the archive of the local paper—but they had never applied for a Social Security card.

“Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and within a year we had over a hundred. For years I was a paper-made Joseph Brown, and then an Anthony Lee, remarkably durable identities. My on-paper official residences: a transient hotel in San Francisco and a warehouse in New York.”

20 posted on 05/16/2011 7:15:29 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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IS OBAMA’S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER PART OF A MANUFACTURED FAKE IDENTITY?

. . . . Article, then check the comments, through # 20, - and esp. # 20.

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22 posted on 05/16/2011 7:36:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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Shouldn’t this be public record? If these checks went out and were cashed.

Blinded by transparency.


29 posted on 05/16/2011 8:23:57 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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34 posted on 05/16/2011 8:55:45 PM PDT by bitt
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Daniels has stated that the number had originally been assigned to a man from Connecticut born in 1890.

The source of this ridiculous claim is one SSN database result that showed the number 1890. If this number were actually assigned to someone who was born in 1890, there would be a name and exact birth date on record and it would show up on more than just one search.

A far more likely explanation is that it's just garbage data that shows up on these imperfect databases, sort of like how one shows one of Obama's addresses as "123 Happy Street."

73 posted on 05/17/2011 8:37:45 AM PDT by Kleon
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No one running for President (even someone who already holds the office) should not receive a public question about this subject.

“Mister President, can you please explain to the American people why the Soc Sec # you have used (citing examples) was once issued to a man born in the 1890s? Why do you have a SS# that was issued in CT when you were 15 and a high schooler in HI?”

It is INSANE if we are never allowed to ask him this.


90 posted on 05/17/2011 3:38:14 PM PDT by Yaelle
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I wonder if Ayers helped him with that too?

Did Ayers generate a fake identity for Obama ?....quoted from Bill Ayers’s Fugitive Dreams:

“After the Baltimore fiasco, stealing ID was forbidden. Instead we began to build ID sets around documents as flimsy as a fishing license or a laminated card available in a Times Square novelty shop called “Official ID.” We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates.
I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisconsin, Illinois and North Dakota,searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another.
Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates—available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form with information I could copy from the death announcement at the archive of the local paper—but they had never applied for a Social Security card.
Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and within a year we had over a hundred. For years I was a paper-made Joseph Brown, and then an Anthony Lee, remarkably durable identities. My on-paper official residences: a transient hotel in San Francisco and a warehouse in New York.”


100 posted on 05/17/2011 5:15:11 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes, and here is a clue... deceased baby girl


101 posted on 05/17/2011 5:29:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; Mozilla; butterdezillion; STARWISE; Ladysforest; Red Steel; 353FMG; 3catsanadog; ...
With all the recent talk of BHO's friends having forged the PDF of his long form BC using a dead person's BC number, and with our recent 'education' on how PDF layers work, I thought I would re-visit the tax return that BHO put out publicly a year ago.

As I was browsing the layers on page 43, I happened to spin the top layer 90 degrees. To my surprise, the layer containing the white-out also contained BHO's signature!

Does that likely mean that BHO did NOT personally sign under penalty of perjury that this filing was truthful? It seems to me that the page was electronically signed by someone else.

Couldn't he also claim he did not 'use' the stolen Connecticut SSN if he personally did NOT sign the form? /s


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I guess that goes hand and hand with his forged Selective Service card too. Everything about this Manchurian Candidate is forged! (Thanks to his buddy Bill Ayers)


123 posted on 05/20/2011 1:27:29 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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fwiw:

Food Stamp Act of 1977 (P.L. 96-58) required disclosure of SSNs of all household members as a condition of eligibility for participation in the food stamp program.

Privacy Protection Study Commission recommended that:

No steps be taken towards developing standard, universal label for individuals until safeguards and policies regarding permissible uses and disclosures were proven effective; and
Executive Order 9397 be amended so that Federal agencies could no longer use it as legal authority to require disclosure of an individual’s SSN. (No action taken.)

The Carter Administration proposed that the Social Security card be one of the authorized documents by which an employer could be assured that a job applicant could work in this country but also stated that the SSN card should not become a national identity document.


133 posted on 05/20/2011 7:41:29 AM PDT by Raycpa
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There really is a simple explanation for CT social security number. The explanation is that someone in CT handled the application for him. All we really know for sure is that the number was applied for from a CT address.

He may have needed a SS number for any number of reasons and a bank trust department, a law firm, an accounting firm, a school, a relative etc could have handled the paper work for him. They could have prepared the application, got his signature or his mothers if a minor, submitted it and used their address. Any of these reasons would be perfectly legit.


135 posted on 05/20/2011 7:57:47 AM PDT by Raycpa
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