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To: Hotlanta Mike; DrC; Red Steel; LucyT
If Ayers generated a fake identity for Obama in the early ‘80’s, no Madelyn or elderly gentleman born in 1890’s speculation is needed!

From the article:

“Editor’s Note: The following two paragraphs are the information which Ms. Daniels sent us quoted from Ayers’s Fugitive Dreams:

“After the Baltimore fiasco, stealing ID was forbidden. Instead we began to build ID sets around documents as flimsy as a fishing license or a laminated card available in a Times Square novelty shop called “Official ID.” We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates. I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisconsin, Illinois and North Dakota,searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another. Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates—available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form with information I could copy from the death announcement at the archive of the local paper—but they had never applied for a Social Security card.

“Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and within a year we had over a hundred. For years I was a paper-made Joseph Brown, and then an Anthony Lee, remarkably durable identities. My on-paper official residences: a transient hotel in San Francisco and a warehouse in New York.”

20 posted on 05/16/2011 7:15:29 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; Hotlanta Mike; DrC; Red Steel; LucyT

I think you’re hot on the trail!


21 posted on 05/16/2011 7:18:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Hotlanta Mike; Red Steel; DrC

Never forget Baby’s Boutique and the WUO skill in new IDs.

Obama may have needed their help after leaving Oxy - where he likely attended as a foreign student. Hence the 999-99 social security numbers from that period.

Obama went to NY in 1981 but did not start at Columbia until fall of 1982. He may have needed that year to get his ‘new life’ in order.

He was living a couple of blocks from Ayers at the time.


26 posted on 05/16/2011 7:48:44 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Seizethecarp

“If Ayers generated a fake identity for Obama in the early ‘80’s, no Madelyn or elderly gentleman born in 1890’s speculation is needed!”

Unfortunately, this detailed description raises more questions than it answers. Note the M.O. of securing a fake ID. Unless I’ve completely misunderstood Ayers’ method, it was: 1. Find a BABY who died early and never applied for SSN. 2. Apply for SSN using that baby’s name. Suddenly you are on paper a different person with a legitimate SSN. But the key is to find a baby whose current age would be roughly similar to yours. Otherwise, there’d be a risk that someone might notice you are not an 87-year-old, but instead a 20-something.

So if BHO were using Bill Ayer’s standard method, the last person in the world he would have used is the SSN of an 87-year old. If Bill Ayers had more than a hundred IDs of babies born in 1940’s and 1950’s, how hard would it have been to obtain one of a baby born in 1961 (or used one of the 1950’s babies for BHO’s new SSN)?

Thus, a theory that “sort of fits” at first glance seems to fall apart upon more serious inspection. I appreciate all the replies various posters have offered to address the things that puzzle me, but none of the responses provides a complete theory devoid of these bothersome inconsistencies etc.


49 posted on 05/17/2011 5:09:15 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Seizethecarp

Best theory yet. And CT is close to NY so the graveyards are accessible to NYorkers for visits. Yup. You got it.


55 posted on 05/17/2011 5:54:54 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Seizethecarp
and within a year we had over a hundred.

And most of them are still creeping around Leftie Events. They are still out there, folks... J. Edgar Hoover knew what was going on but was powerless to stop them...

102 posted on 05/17/2011 8:40:59 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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