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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Hotlanta Mike; Red Steel; DrC

Never forget Baby’s Boutique and the WUO skill in new IDs.

Obama may have needed their help after leaving Oxy - where he likely attended as a foreign student. Hence the 999-99 social security numbers from that period.

Obama went to NY in 1981 but did not start at Columbia until fall of 1982. He may have needed that year to get his ‘new life’ in order.

He was living a couple of blocks from Ayers at the time.


26 posted on 05/16/2011 7:48:44 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
Obama went to NY in 1981 but did not start at Columbia until fall of 1982. He may have needed that year to get his ‘new life’ in order.

He got high for two years at Occidental College, then completed a degree in only nine months at Columbia, with a GPA good enough to get him into Harvard?


32 posted on 05/16/2011 8:30:55 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bluecat6

“Obama may have needed their help after leaving Oxy - where he likely attended as a foreign student. Hence the 999-99 social security numbers from that period.”

This offers a more plausible scenario in that it explains why he might have needed a new SSN even after already having acquired one as a teen.

“He was living a couple of blocks from Ayers at the time.”
Right, which is why including Madelyn Dunham in this scenario doesn’t make sense to me. Ayers already had demonstrated his contempt for the law and ability to evade it by securing fake IDs at will. He would have been well-positioned to assist Obama if such help was needed. I can’t imagine BHO actively seeking help from grandma to undertake this potentially dangerous activity—i.e., risking her job, if not actual jail time.

But even if this scenario is correct, I’m confused about timing. The card was applied for in 1977, well before BHO “needed” a new card or Bill Ayers was remotely connected to his life. It did not get actually USED until 1985—several years after the 1981-82 time period you’ve alluded to. I assume Bill Ayers was not in the habit of generating fake IDs for fun, that some “need” would have triggered the effort to secure a new SSN for BHO. Perhaps Columbia itself required an SSN for its own records even if BHO wasn’t an employee etc. But if the card was secured and USED in 1981-82, I don’t see why the records of BHO’s residences in connection with that card don’t start until 1985.

You’ve potentially helped resolve the “motivation” problem related to BHO’s already having gotten a legitimate SSN as a teen. But there’s still unresolved timing issues that I think any adequate theory of this case would have to address for it to receive widespread acceptance.


48 posted on 05/17/2011 4:58:28 AM PDT by DrC
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