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If bin Laden Was Unarmed, Why Was He Shot?(Did Seals take ANY fire?)
Time/Swampland ^ | 3 May 2011 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 05/03/2011 5:18:12 PM PDT by PilotDave

A major question lingers unanswered at the center of this story: Why was bin Laden killed? Michael Scherer has reported that the Navy Seals who landed at Osama bin Laden’s safehouse were not given orders specifically to kill, but were on a “kill or capture” mission. That implies they were prepared to accept bin Laden’s surrender. It didn’t work out that way. But despite earlier reports to the contrary, including from White House counter-terror adviser John Brennan, Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters Tuesday that bin Laden was in fact unarmed. (“Resistance does not require a firearm,” he said.) So, what happened?

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: laden; obama; obltermination; osama; shiftingstory; usama
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To: PilotDave
I will accept the theory of him being unarmed, therefore THIS administration is now the agressor/war criminal, they ONCE AND SO OFTEN ACCUSED BUSH/CHENEY and all their adminsitraion of being.

I suspect these theories are being said, more as sarcasm.

101 posted on 05/03/2011 7:11:35 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Right. Now we are going to have weeks of wringing of the hands? Under the same scenario as the Seals who were subjected to court-martial, i guess we have to do it to these guys, eh? Some people just are never ever satisfied with good results.


102 posted on 05/03/2011 7:23:13 PM PDT by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: higgmeister

Just sit back and watch. Most here are blinded right now by the wish for revenge for all the deaths Osama created.

But when you sit back and start looking at the law, and the undercurrent right now SUCH AS CARNEY’s COMMENTS..

it becomes obvious what is being set up to happen.

Remember the Somali pirate incident????

Come back and find me in a month and see if they aren’t trying to throw the Navy Seals under the bus.


103 posted on 05/03/2011 7:25:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Really! We saved a long and drawn out trial for heaven sakes!


104 posted on 05/03/2011 7:28:29 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: PilotDave
NO Resistance that I can find reported at all?

Maybe you weren't looking hard enough. It has been reported from numerous sources. Here it is from the horse's mouth.

CIA Chief Panetta: Obama Made 'Gutsy' Decision on Bin Laden Raid

JIM LEHRER: What did you find out then or since about whether or not Osama bin Laden said anything to the American SEAL commandos?

LEON PANETTA: To be frank, I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything. It was a firefight going up that compound. And by the time they got to the third floor and found bin Laden, I think it - this was all split-second action on the part of the SEALs.

JIM LEHRER: Was Osama bin Laden armed? Was he shooting back at the SEALs?

LEON PANETTA: I don't believe so. But obviously, there were some firefights that were going on as these guys were making their way up the staircase in that compound. And when they got up there, there were some threatening moves that were made that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired.

105 posted on 05/03/2011 7:38:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
So what?

So what? So what?? This administration is lying in its teeth on a daily basis and you ask "So what?"

106 posted on 05/03/2011 7:44:44 PM PDT by Misterioso (The noble soul has reverence for itself. - Nietszche)
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To: RummyChick
JIM LEHRER: And they had orders to fire. In other words, it was clear - it was fine with the United States government that they went in and shot this guy, right?

LEON PANETTA: The authority here was to kill bin Laden. And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him.

Couldn't be any clearer than that. They had the full authority to kill him. This from the CIA Chief. There is no way the Administration is going to throw the Seals under the bus. Not only was their authority clearly defined, but since Obama considers everything as politics, he would be committing political suicide if he or anyone in his administration tried to throw the Seals under the bus. It just ain't going to happen.

107 posted on 05/03/2011 7:46:27 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Find me in a month. International legal scholars are already addressing the illegality of the act.


108 posted on 05/03/2011 7:56:59 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kabar

Ps. Current Rules of Engagment do not require Taliban to throw up their hands in the air and surrender. Have you missed all of the stories about soldiers being angry over how they are being hamstrung???

Navy Seals are not exempt from Rules of Engagement.

HOWEVER, CIA operatives are another story.


109 posted on 05/03/2011 7:59:35 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Damned straight!


110 posted on 05/03/2011 8:09:12 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." ))
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To: kabar

Your link to the Paneta interview didn’t work. I hope I’m wrong. But either way I’m not blaming the seals. What I’m concerned about is the ROE reasoning.
As far as a fire fight up in the compound, there are many pics of OBL’s bedroom online. Blood covering the floor. Find me a bullet hole anywhere. I’ve looked. Clean walls, furniture, even the water bed?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=elsfph&xhr=t&q=bin+laden+bedroom&cp=17&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&wrapid=tljp1304478064286030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=550


111 posted on 05/03/2011 8:12:12 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: higgmeister
I do not want anything to be clearly defined. Leaving the story ambiguous...

They've made it ill-defined and ambiguous through making the National Security message a clown car.

That's one way of making the Administration's policy ambiguous, but is less a reflection of their subtlety than their ineptitude.


112 posted on 05/03/2011 8:15:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: RummyChick
Come back and find me in a month and see if they aren’t trying to throw the Navy Seals under the bus.

I cannot comprehend how that would come about. The mission speaks for itself. If anyone was not prepared to kill the number one criminal of the world then why send the Seals there at all? That cannot be spun.

Please explain step-by-step how you think this development will occur. At least explain to what court or tribunal this issue would be presented?

Are you thinking of Courts Martial for the Navy Seals? If so, what would the charge be? Not "winging" OBL, not reading "Miranda Rights" to OBL, or not giving OBL a chance to run to a "spider hole" or refuge room? It is really far fetched to send an assassin squad to rub-out a threat in front of the whole World and then bring charges against the heroes.

All you have presented so far is a pantywaist WH minion showing his liberal distress at a military action.

113 posted on 05/03/2011 8:20:23 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: PilotDave

Why not?


114 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:18 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Plutarch
They've made it ill-defined and ambiguous through making the National Security message a clown car.

I see it more as a multitude of News organizations trying to get their scoop from sources reluctant to provide details for National Security concerns, with the so-called journalists making up the differences from their festering blood-lusting little imaginations.

The Alphabet Network looped video of the blood at the foot of the water bed in OBL's bedroom speaks volumes.

115 posted on 05/03/2011 8:29:22 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: PilotDave

this was an assasination.


116 posted on 05/03/2011 8:31:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proven to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: higgmeister; RummyChick

The Democratic Leadership on Capitol Hill would impeach the Bamster before they would actually allow him to Court Martial the SEALs that took out Osama. Can you imagine how the GOP would go to town with gift like that...??

Two words : no way.


117 posted on 05/03/2011 8:35:50 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: higgmeister

“send an assassin squad to rub-out a threat in front of the whole World “

Therein lies the problem.

An assassination team went into a foreign country and assasinated an unarmed man without the permission of the country. A country that was not part of the “war zone”

Extrajudicial killing.

We will see how much traction this gets.

If it was Bush we would already be seeing the fallout.

Since it is Obama, people are being cautious at this point

Of course, Ray McGovern (in the CIA for decades and helped with writing Daddy Bush’s Daily briefings) has already weighed in. He is now a peace activist.

If you are intellectually honest..and have paid attention to this administration ...you surely can recognize the signs of laying the groundwork for fingerpointing to the Navy Seals if it hits the fan.


118 posted on 05/03/2011 8:37:29 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: mnehring

All I know is if they try to throw the SEALs who killed Usama under the buss, you’ll have millions of people marching tearing the jail open to free them

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OSAMA is his name. Please stop using the leftist replacement.


119 posted on 05/03/2011 8:38:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proven to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Cyropaedia

Go back to the Somali Pirate incident. There was definite fallout from that...if you look hard enough.


120 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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