Does Obama’s long form birth certificate clear him or prove he’s not a natural born citizen?

coachisright.com ^ | May 1, 2011 | Suzanne Eovaldi, staff writer

[jmaroneps37]

Did Barack Obama just stop his own possible bloodless coup d’etat in its tracks when he released his long form birth certificate? He now clearly reveals his father was a subject of the British Royal Crown rendering him, Barack Obama II, ineligible to assume the U.S. Presidency!

“Obama Sr. was a member of the Luo tribe from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya, which at the time was still a British colony,” writes Aaron Klein with researcher Brenda J. Elliott, for World Net Daily. Our U.S. Constitution states: Article. II. Section. 1. “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President. . .”

”The Manchurian President” authors cite the theory of Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel who was read by our Founding Fathers. “De Vattel writes in Book 1, Chapter 19, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who were citizens. . .In order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

The fact that Barack Obama does not meet the natural born requirement was a key argument in the Kerchner v. Obama….

Now, Jerome Corsi, …..revealing an inconvenient truth posed by the birth of the Nordyke twin girls. He says, “As WND reported, the long-form birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani to the Nordyke twins have certificate numbers lower than the number given Obama, even though the president purportedly was born at the same hospital a day earlier than the Nordykes…

[jmaroneps37]

At first I thought the sequential number problem was solved by the Left's pointing out that the numbers where issued from two different locations, but that argument goes out the window with the new information that both the twins and Obama where born in the same hospital.

IF there were two different offices issuing birth certificates in the town at that time (which is unlikely) that fact is now rendered meaningless because there could not have been two different issuing officesat the same hospital. This document is a phony and this is not over.

[BuffaloJack]

What long form birth certificate?
I haven’t seen one yet. Only a bad forgerie.

[rawcatslyentist]

This is the first "legal" proof of his Dual born citizenship.

He's not eligible, and needs to be removed from office ASAP!

[Grunthor]

It clears him. This issue? It’s dead. On to actual policy differences!

[CharlesWayneCT]

It will never be over, because you can’t stop a conspiracy theory with talk, facts, or a message from God Almighty.

On the other issue, I’ve wondered if this means that a child of a single mother can’t be President, if the woman can’t prove who the father is.

I also guess it would preclude an adopted child, as the birth parents might well be unknown. And what about in-vitro fertilization; do we have to know the citizenship of the sperm and egg donors?

It has always been known that the man Obama claimed as his father was not a citizen. The argument over natural born citizen has always revolved around that question, although it was effectively obscured by the easier to understand and therefore simple distraction of Obama’s birth certificate.

[Texas Eagle]

Our U.S. Constitution states: Article. II. Section. 1. “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President. . .”

Yeah, well, then there's that whole 14th Amendment thing....

Amendment Text | Annotations

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[Hotlanta Mike]

It clears him. This issue? It’s dead. On to actual policy differences!

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It’s only dead if the US Constitution is dead. Acrime against the Constitution has been committed, and you want to look the other way?

In the comments section:

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obama-cant-defeat-his-own-strawman/#more-6093

drkate :

… or hidden away!

Keep in mind that WE ALREADY KNOW THE UNAMBIGUOUS LEGAL DEFINITION OF THE TERM-OF-ART “natural born Citizen”!! It was put into the law of this land by the United States Supreme Court decision in the 1875 Minor v. Happersett case and has never been overturned (but even has been recognized and confirmed in other cases since that time). At the time of the decision in Minor it was almost 100 years after the nation’s founding and even now 230-plus years later it still means the same thing. One simplified way of stating this is “born in the US of 2 US citizen parents”.

The actual 1875 Supreme Court opinion in Minor v Happersett:

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. “ (emphasis added)

This means the simple “born in America of 2 citizen parents” still is the active, pertinent law of our land. It should in conjunction with A2S1C5 of the Constitution, be the law that determines Obama’s fate … of course he and the Flying Monkeys won’t agree; they’d rather just ignore or rewrite the Constitution, but I wouldn’t.

[Texas Eagle]

I guess the key phrase in The 14th Amendment would be...."and subject to the jurisdiction thereof".

If Ubama was born in Hawaii, was he subject to the jurisdiction thereof if his father was Kenyan?

I don't know. I'm just askin'.

[J40000]

Sir, the main issue here is the HONESTLY, or lack thereof by our president. This is only ONE of many hidden facets of his past.

Folks who can pooh-pooh this issue are folks who can be sold bridges and snake oil. This is no conspiracy theory. It’s about honesty and integrity by our nation’s leaders.

[EGPWS]

Where is the proof that he is homo sapien?

[Sacajaweau]

I agree....The dual citizenship is the problem. Our forfathers wanted the test to be of the highest order...

not the lowest....birth in a parking lot in Dallas by an american citizen married "illegally" to a Mexican drug dealer.

[Diogenesis]

There is no conspiracy theory.

There are facts.

On one side is the US Constitution.

On the other side are Obama and Romney
(and his RomneyBOTs on these threads).

[RC one]

It’s a supreme court argument at this point. What I do know is that the framers dealt with the natural born citizen thing twice: once in in the constitution and once in the naturalization act of 1790 which specifically stated that nationality is conferred by the father and that the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States. The framer’s original intent is pretty clear regardless of what people say today.

[FlyingEagle]

Its just more lies from the Marxist.

Lenin concludes that: “History as a whole, and the history of revolutions in particular, is always richer in content, more varied, more multiform, more lively and ingenious than is imagined by even the best parties, the most class-conscious vanguards of the most advanced classes ... Two very important practical conclusions follow from this: first, that in order to accomplish its task the revolutionary class must be able to master all forms or aspects of social activity without exception (completing after the capture of political power — sometimes at great risk and with very great danger—what it did not complete before the capture of power); second, that the revolutionary class must be prepared for the most rapid and brusque replacement of one form by another.”

http://sfr-21.org/lwc.html link

[mojitojoe]

He has never been a natural born citizen and he knows it. His sire,( I won’t use the term father because the only father figures he ever had were FMD, Gramps and Lolo) held allegiance to another country, which passed he onto his spawn, IF senior is really his father which I highly question.

That piece of crap he produced to try to help his poll numbers and stop sales of the Corsi book, is laughable. So laughable that I don’t even feel like debating it and picking it apart.

The only way the clown in chief would be a natural born citizen is if he came out and said, Frank Marshall Davis was really my sire. Of course he would be a liar, but still eligible. But he will never do that. He would rather take his chances with his sire being a foreigner than get caught in a lie.

I really don’t think he knows how to tell the truth. His entire life is one big lie.

[Diogenesis]

John Jay (December 12, 1745 – May 17, 1829), American revolutionary, and the first Chief Justice of the United States
was so concerned about "natural born" being a PREREQUISITE to being POTUS, that he wrote to
Gen. Washington and underlined this in his letter (see below).

"[T]he people are the sovereign of this country, and consequently that
fellow citizens and joint sovereigns cannot be degraded by appearing
with each other in their own courts to have their controversies determined.
The people have reason to prize and rejoice in such valuable privileges,
and they ought not to forget that nothing but the free course
of constitutional law and government can ensure the continuance
and enjoyment of them."
[John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia]

[mojitojoe]

Not hardly. It will never be over, NEVER!! Too many inconsistencies,coverups, and lies.

[ßuddaßudd]

The BC is just one piece of the big scam, along with the multiple Identities to game the education system to attend college.
imho

[Grunthor]

I got one question for you; Who in D.C. has the balls to remove him? WHO?

Case closed.

[Texas Eagle]

It’s only dead if the US Constitution is dead.

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