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Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
Examiner.com ^ | April 29, 2011 | Alfred Lambremont Webre

Posted on 04/30/2011 9:44:49 AM PDT by patlin

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To: FreeAtlanta
What are you using? I just tried with my hp officejet 6500.

For the Obama file, just open the PDF in Illustrator to see the layers. For my file I'm using CanoScan 8400F. The key is to scan to, or convert to, PDF, then open in illustrator. Even a jpeg will create a couple of layers this way. Open a more complex scanned file and you'll see the layers, named the same way (and grouped as funky) as the Obama pdf.

161 posted on 04/30/2011 11:54:06 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Texas Fossil

We’re starting to beat a dead horse here. For three years folks have demanded a long form birth certificate. One was provided. Whether we like it or not, it is now in the record and until forensic experts prove otherwise, it’s accepted as evidence of Obama’s birth in that hospital on that date and at that time. There comes a time to let it go.

Let me repeat: by focusing on the stupid birth certificate instead of the Constitutional question, Obama has p*wned everyone who questions his Constitutional eligibility to serve as POTUS. Gotta give him credit.


162 posted on 04/30/2011 11:55:45 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: stboz

They probably won’t let Petraeus in the White House armed.


163 posted on 04/30/2011 11:55:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: D-fendr

You’re quite welcome. Please ping me if cartan responds.

This would be a very technical “miss,” one I could see even a good forger making...


164 posted on 04/30/2011 11:57:16 AM PDT by piytar (Talga Vassternich)
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To: WackySam
WackySam WROTE:

This place is getting as nutty as DU.

Can't get better than that.

165 posted on 04/30/2011 11:58:36 AM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: patlin

Since many of you FR folks don’t know how to read or listen, I will recap:

That interview with Robert Stanley was great until toward the end where he got into extraterrestrials who are in Washington and in the Far East running the show in DC.

What a nut case.

Oh yes. According to Stanley, the power players in DC are all centered around the Vatican.

You go, Donald!!!


166 posted on 04/30/2011 11:59:05 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ml/nj

I’ve seen one, have you seen more than one?

In order to prove that the UKlL guy was a real registrar, we’d need to see a list of registrars, and/or more documents that have no possibility of taint. One is not enough, and one in actual hand is needed. Not something found on the internet.


167 posted on 04/30/2011 12:00:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ml/nj
Assuming that Obama were an American citizen by birth, I think even if he returned here with an Indonesian passport as a minor he would still be regarded as an American citizen under our laws.

I believe you are right. However, a difficulty could arise if it were proved that he used this putative Indonesian nationality to get aid as a foreign student at some point. I suspect that might be one of the reasons he is hiding the college records.

168 posted on 04/30/2011 12:00:59 PM PDT by livius
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To: EDINVA

I see your point, but now that he has released his privacy rights on this, Hawaii has no excuse not to let the media come in and take pictures of the original. Right?


169 posted on 04/30/2011 12:01:37 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: livius; SvenMagnussen

Please do a search on the name Sven Magnussen. He has posted State Dept docs describing how a minor child can legally renounce US citizenship. Sven doesn’t post a great deal so it’s easy to find his comments on this topic.


170 posted on 04/30/2011 12:02:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: CanaGuy
If, as you suggest, it wasn't known as "Kenya", why did that name appear on postage stamps from that era?

Because your stamp is a forgery and you are a CIA plant. Of course.

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171 posted on 04/30/2011 12:04:03 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: rolling_stone

Thanks, and here is the law, chapter and verse:

The U.S. Immigration Law that covers the issue of children born abroad to 1 citizen and 1 alien.

http://library.uwb.edu/guides/USimmigration/66%20stat%20163.pdf

the McCarran-Walter Act, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952

Public law 82-414 Chapter 1 Section 301 (7)

This applies to Obozo, assuming he is the son of Barrack H. Obama, Sr. and that he was born abroad.

If born abroad with the stated father, he is not even a U.S. Citizen.....


172 posted on 04/30/2011 12:09:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: patlin; Fred Nerks

Watch for the next Obama twitch.Its sure to come, the MSM is starting to turn.Fred I thought you especially would like this thread.


173 posted on 04/30/2011 12:10:25 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: org.whodat

Robert M. Stanley, author "Close Encounters on Capitol Hill"

174 posted on 04/30/2011 12:14:59 PM PDT by Brandonmark (News Coverage)
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To: ml/nj
Can you point to a couple of pdf which purport to represent the scanned image of a single document, that have been on the internet since before last week that exhibit similar properties. Come on! This is gonna be easy for you. Right?

No, it's not that easy, it will take a fair amount of my time. You do the search for pdf of scanned image of single document on the internet before last week. Give me the links and I'll open them and give you the results.

175 posted on 04/30/2011 12:19:39 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: savedbygrace

The reporter from the Washington Times didn’t bring up the time travel stuff. It was the interviewer who spoke about that.


176 posted on 04/30/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I see your point, but now that he has released his privacy rights on this, Hawaii has no excuse not to let the media come in and take pictures of the original. Right?

Contrary to claims of certain officials in Hawaii, I sincerely doubt that the original still exists. I doubt the first generation copy still exists (microfiche image of the page). Many many counties have destroyed the old books, and destroyed the microfiche libraries created off the originals once they scanned the microfiche images into computers.

I'm pretty sure that 'legally', these computer images are the 'original documents.' And I doubt that there's anything physical for press reporters to go photograph.

But who knows, so many things thought to be 'destroyed' turn up in people's garages - maybe someone's friend was in the same book as Obama, and they saved the book to give to a friend rather than destroying it. Or someone kept the microfiche page because they wanted to remember using the old films. But I really doubt it's out there.

177 posted on 04/30/2011 12:23:29 PM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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To: piytar; cartan
One other possibility: The HI officials say it was a photocopy of a page from a book on safety paper. What if the photocopier was a black and white one? That could explain the lack of chromatic aberration.

However the document black tones are not pure grayscale. If they were, the R/G/B numbers would all be equal for each shade of black: 0/0/0, 23/23/23, etc. There is a color cast. I dunno.

Photocopier tech is not my area, so I'm cautious to tread more here.

178 posted on 04/30/2011 12:26:43 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Hawaii has no excuse not to let the media come in and take pictures of the original. Right?”

I’m not a lawyer, but IIRC, in releasing the document, DHOH sent a letter explaining that it was going beyond its required duty to give him that doc, ostensibly under the new and ever so convenient HI law that henceforth only short forms will be issued.

I believe what was released this week is only an abstract, but it contains the information required by any venue that requires a BC (i.e., Passport Office/DMV).

One thing that struck me in this week’s released document was the absence of “amendments” or any notation about the existence of an ‘amendment.” It is known that he was adopted. (or thought that he was adopted .. with this guy who KNOWS anything?) That should be an “amendment” to the original. Yet there is nothing in this week’s release to reflect any amendment(s)at all.

I would think HDOH doesn’t have to allow media or anyone else into their archives to see the original, absent a court order. And you know how quickly such a court order would be issued!

His releasing the BC would only relinquish his privacy rights with regard to that document. You don’t see anyone assuming it gives them the right to his college or other records.


179 posted on 04/30/2011 12:27:47 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: patlin
It ALL has to do with the Indonesian father

Only if Barry Soetoro never legally changed his name back to Barack Huessin Obama II.

180 posted on 04/30/2011 12:27:57 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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