Posted on 04/27/2011 6:46:49 PM PDT by geraldmcg
At long last, Barack Obama Jr. released his long form birth certificate today, clearly proving he is NOT a natural born citizen. So, why has there been virtually no call in the Senate to begin impeachment proceedings? And why are so many news reporters acting as if all Obama needed to substantiate he was a Natural Born Citizen was to prove he was born in the U.S.A?
The U.S. Constitution and U.S. law, as of the time of Obama Juniors birth, still required a President to have a father (pictured top left) who was a U.S. citizen. Clearly Obamas father was a British citizen, as clearly shown on the very document Obama released.
Still not convinced? Lets take a refresher course in U.S. history. Our founding fathers didnt want any U.S. President to have mixed loyalties so they required that both parents of a President be U.S. citizens in order to qualify their son or daughter to be a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. Period. Simple. Not complicated.
Heres the exact language of the Naturalization Act of 1790, passed by the first U.S. Congress: And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States
So there you have it. Obama is not eligible to be U.S. President and needs to be impeached and convicted quickly to avoid a constitutional crisis and to follow rule of law.
Bottom line: It doesnt matter if Obama was born in Hawaii, which was actually a U.S. Territory at the time of Obamas birth and not yet a U.S. state. What does matter is that Obama Jr.s dad Obama Sr. was not a U.S. citizen and thus rendering his sons Presidential aspirations patently illegal.
Need more proof? The founding fathers put the definition in writing from the defining documents of their day. Founding father John Jay used the definition of natural born Citizen straight from The Law of Nations (Vattel) that states: The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens
(Vattel in Book 1, Sec 212)
All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the states in which they live.
I based my position as a birther on two points:
1. He was not born in Hawaii ( 25% )
2. His father was not a citizen (75%)
Apparently, he WAS born in Hawaii.
That is assuming the birth certificate is not a fraud.
It IS apparent that his father was not a US citizen.
btt
You'll notice that some letters are in the first picture, but not the second, like the K in "Kenya" and the first three letters of "none." This is because they were too light or incomplete and weren't recognized by the scanner.
There is no evidence that someone crafted this. Whoever scanned it probably had no idea it was creating multiple layers.
That really gets me. Thier intent couldnt be clearer but all these ‘conservatives’ suddenly invoke the spirit of Bill Clinton and “what the meaning of ‘is’ is” word games.
Well, every man has the right to be a fool. Personal choice and all that. And speaking of fools...
Just noticed I goofed ;)...Should read
“Oh well...guess none of the other things the Founding Fathers said, wrote, inferred and clearly meant when they created the countrys core docs are meaningful as well. Lets PARTY!”
Get over it. You're not a lawyer. Focus on the real issues of the lousy economy and Obama's failure as a president...
All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the states in which they live.
So?
“Think hes referring to his father.”
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Has nothing to do with the father.
The father was apparently Kenyan, and
I do not recall anyone even suggesting that
his father was Hawaiian.
Why wasn't it clear when he was a Senator and constantly mentioned as a potential candidate? Or during the Democratic primary?
Simply amazing
It was to the many of us not intent on electing a Marxist. Not so clear to those intent on supporting him. Not my fault they have an agenda and reading difficulties.
We need the Donald to get on this natural born citizen aspect..
He was the only one with guts enough to make him cough up his bc.
the definition isn’t unclear in the least.
a natural born citizen is someone born in the country, of two citizens at the time of their birth.
if only one parent is a citizen, then the person is a normal citizen... naturalized... not a natural born citizen
this concept was old when the Constitution was written. you’re lack of understanding is yours, not some murkiness in the definition
If you're doing corrections, it should be "implied," not "inferred."
please show me, in the Constitution, the definition of the word ‘independence’
you won’t find it. it was, and is, in common use.
Noted! Thank you.
Folks can argue over the definition of the phrase, Natural Born Citizen, but the fact is, there is a condition of group membership that the Framers were attempting to codify in the US Constitution in Article II, Section I, by using that phrase.
They wanted to protect our country from ever having someone with divided loyalties from ever attaining the office of president (for obvious reasons).
To accomplish this, they set the bar for citizenship of president higher than for any other federal office named in the Constitution. Nowhere else in the Constitution will you find that a federal officer MUST be a Natural Born Citizen.
The Framers didn’t just pull that phrase out of thin air, either. That phrase was well known to educated people of the time, and it was universally understood to mean, one who is born on the soil of their country to two citizen parents of that same country.
It’s a simple concept, whose meaning has been muddied by time, and the corruption of our laws and language.
The original intent of the Framers has never been in question about this.
actually, we needed the long form as official record of his father’s citizenship at the time of his birth. up to this point, it was only hearsay.
now that we have the document, now ask... how can you be a natural born citizen if both parents weren’t citizens?
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