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IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! Long Form Birth Certificate Proves he is NOT Natural Born Citizen
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Posted on 04/27/2011 6:46:49 PM PDT by geraldmcg
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To: Norm Lenhart
All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the states in which they live.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:05:38 PM PDT
by
bobjam
To: geraldmcg
I based my position as a birther on two points:
1. He was not born in Hawaii ( 25% )
2. His father was not a citizen (75%)
Apparently, he WAS born in Hawaii.
That is assuming the birth certificate is not a fraud.
It IS apparent that his father was not a US citizen.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:07:27 PM PDT
by
AlexW
(Proud eligibility skeptic)
To: geraldmcg
To: MeshugeMikey
The image with the white background is a layer created by the scanner that separates whatever text and images it picks up, so that the document can be more easily searched.
You'll notice that some letters are in the first picture, but not the second, like the K in "Kenya" and the first three letters of "none." This is because they were too light or incomplete and weren't recognized by the scanner.
There is no evidence that someone crafted this. Whoever scanned it probably had no idea it was creating multiple layers.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:09:16 PM PDT
by
Kleon
To: Goreknowshowtocheat
That really gets me. Thier intent couldnt be clearer but all these ‘conservatives’ suddenly invoke the spirit of Bill Clinton and “what the meaning of ‘is’ is” word games.
Well, every man has the right to be a fool. Personal choice and all that. And speaking of fools...
Just noticed I goofed ;)...Should read
“Oh well...guess none of the other things the Founding Fathers said, wrote, inferred and clearly meant when they created the countrys core docs are meaningful as well. Lets PARTY!”
To: geraldmcg
Don't practice law without a license champ. Since the Supreme Court decided U.S. v Wong Kim Ark in 1898, the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution has been interpreted as conferring citizenship on anyone born in the U.S. Who are legally present in the U.S. Regardless of their parents' citizenship status. The 14th amendment trumps the naturalization act, which by the way, has been amended many times now.
Get over it. You're not a lawyer. Focus on the real issues of the lousy economy and Obama's failure as a president...
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:10:05 PM PDT
by
CWW
(Pray for God's Protection!)
To: bobjam
All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the states in which they live.
So?
To: HollyB
“Think hes referring to his father.”
_____________________
Has nothing to do with the father.
The father was apparently Kenyan, and
I do not recall anyone even suggesting that
his father was Hawaiian.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:11:12 PM PDT
by
AlexW
(Proud eligibility skeptic)
To: Norm Lenhart
Thier intent couldnt be clearer Why wasn't it clear when he was a Senator and constantly mentioned as a potential candidate? Or during the Democratic primary?
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:14:05 PM PDT
by
Kleon
To: MeshugeMikey
Very nice. Look at all those changes
Simply amazing
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:16:24 PM PDT
by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
To: Kleon
It was to the many of us not intent on electing a Marxist. Not so clear to those intent on supporting him. Not my fault they have an agenda and reading difficulties.
To: geraldmcg
We need the Donald to get on this natural born citizen aspect..
He was the only one with guts enough to make him cough up his bc.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:17:05 PM PDT
by
patriot08
(TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
To: Kleon
the definition isn’t unclear in the least.
a natural born citizen is someone born in the country, of two citizens at the time of their birth.
if only one parent is a citizen, then the person is a normal citizen... naturalized... not a natural born citizen
this concept was old when the Constitution was written. you’re lack of understanding is yours, not some murkiness in the definition
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:17:22 PM PDT
by
sten
(fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
To: Norm Lenhart
Just noticed I goofed ;)...Should read Oh well...guess none of the other things the Founding Fathers said, wrote, inferred and clearly meant when they created the countrys core docs are meaningful as well. Lets PARTY! If you're doing corrections, it should be "implied," not "inferred."
To: Probonopublico
please show me, in the Constitution, the definition of the word ‘independence’
you won’t find it. it was, and is, in common use.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:19:44 PM PDT
by
sten
(fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
To: SoothingDave
To: geraldmcg
Folks can argue over the definition of the phrase, Natural Born Citizen, but the fact is, there is a condition of group membership that the Framers were attempting to codify in the US Constitution in Article II, Section I, by using that phrase.
They wanted to protect our country from ever having someone with divided loyalties from ever attaining the office of president (for obvious reasons).
To accomplish this, they set the bar for citizenship of president higher than for any other federal office named in the Constitution. Nowhere else in the Constitution will you find that a federal officer MUST be a Natural Born Citizen.
The Framers didn’t just pull that phrase out of thin air, either. That phrase was well known to educated people of the time, and it was universally understood to mean, one who is born on the soil of their country to two citizen parents of that same country.
It’s a simple concept, whose meaning has been muddied by time, and the corruption of our laws and language.
The original intent of the Framers has never been in question about this.
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:19:51 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Kleon
theres an ENORMOUS amount of evidend that someone crafter it as there are layers for SINGLE WORDS and SINGLE DATES in the PDF which Ive deconsturcted in order to EXPOSE it as the fraud it is. the TWO TOP LAYERS....I RENAMED after downloading the pdf and opening it in Adobe Photoshop....they CONTAINED very faint highlights which cross the patterned backgorund just about the April 2011 date....and are likely supposed to be some hint of the SEAL one might expect to find on an authentic document
the PANEL on the RIGHT that is marked LAYERS tells the story fairly well. I RENAMED those layers What is this Later For +And This Layer? IN the Adobe Photoshop application. had they FLATTENED the document like anyone in thier right mind would have done there would have been no EVIDENCE of its being constructed FOR WHATEVER REASON of several layers of visual information Id suspect that anyone who has ever constructed ANY sort of visual representation using this application would GET that this B.C. was constructed.....FAKED
To: Kleon
theres an ENORMOUS amount of evidend that someone crafter it as there are layers for SINGLE WORDS and SINGLE DATES in the PDF which Ive deconsturcted in order to EXPOSE it as the fraud it is. the TWO TOP LAYERS....I RENAMED after downloading the pdf and opening it in Adobe Photoshop....they CONTAINED very faint highlights which cross the patterned backgorund just about the April 2011 date....and are likely supposed to be some hint of the SEAL one might expect to find on an authentic document
the PANEL on the RIGHT that is marked LAYERS tells the story fairly well. I RENAMED those layers What is this Later For +And This Layer? IN the Adobe Photoshop application. had they FLATTENED the document like anyone in thier right mind would have done there would have been no EVIDENCE of its being constructed FOR WHATEVER REASON of several layers of visual information Id suspect that anyone who has ever constructed ANY sort of visual representation using this application would GET that this B.C. was constructed.....FAKED
To: Marie
actually, we needed the long form as official record of his father’s citizenship at the time of his birth. up to this point, it was only hearsay.
now that we have the document, now ask... how can you be a natural born citizen if both parents weren’t citizens?
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posted on
04/27/2011 7:21:32 PM PDT
by
sten
(fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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