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Deconstructing the new Obama Certificate of Live Birth
citizen5408.com ^ | April 27, 2011 | Greg C.

Posted on 04/27/2011 1:53:34 PM PDT by FreedomFighter1013

A caller to the Rush Limbaugh show today pointed out an interesting factoid about the so-called "long-form" birth certificate, which the Obama White House released today.

The document is a .pdf file which can be downloaded from this link. The file is an Adobe Acrobat ".pdf" file, which can also be opened by Adobe's other graphics programs Photoshop and Illustrator.


(Excerpt) Read more at gregcontreras.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; blogpimp; certifigate; colb; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: frogjerk

It is just an assumption. People want to believe it is just for the BC but they don’t think about all the other things he may have needed attorneys for- which, if you are running for President, would be a lot.


61 posted on 04/27/2011 3:18:14 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: frogjerk

Agreed. For the record, I don’t personally use the $2 million number or any other specific amount, which is why I change it in my head as I read posts where others do use the specific number(s).

The actual number isn’t important. The fact that he chose to fight it and all and spend any sum of money is the important part of that argument. He paid others to avoid disclosing what he (purportedly) disclosed today. That makes him look shady and dishonest.


62 posted on 04/27/2011 3:20:23 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( No legit president needs to fake a birth certificate. Ever. )))))
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To: spookie

I’m thinking they put african because Sr. was from Africa.


63 posted on 04/27/2011 3:21:15 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: PGR88
You can scan a document into Adobe and have the software recognize the words. It then translates that into the "layers" and the words can be edited but the software uses the fonts only in your computer or the Adobe software, not the original fonts (the downfall of Dan Rather).

You can also scan a document and turn it into a .jpg file or a few other picture formats. These are just pictures and the words cannot be edited.

64 posted on 04/27/2011 3:22:27 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: FreedomFighter1013

I was going to refrain from ths discussion, but too many folks are missing the more salient points. First, to be a “natural born” citizen of the United States (and, therefore, eligible to be POTUS), BOTH parents must be American citizens. The BC, whether real or another fake (like he previous COLB) confirms that his father was “African”. The fact is that his father was Kenyan and was in Hawaii attending school as a student. The result is that Obama can NEVER be a natural born citizen of the US because both of his parents were not American citizens. The Consttution is pretty clear about this.

But, we delve further into this mystery. At around the age of 10 or 12 (I don’t know Obama’s history verbatim . . . . . and don’t care!) he was adopted by an Indonesian, Barry Soetero, thereby further obscuring his lineage and making it more certain that he does not meet the Constitutionally required criteria of being a “natural born citizen”. Obama’s citizenship cannot transfer solely from the mother, in order to meet the Constitutional criteria, it can only transfer from both parents and, if his father was “African (Kenyan)”, there is no way that he meets the eligibility requirements established by the Constitution to be POTUS.

See? It’s much more simple than just the BC, but deconstructing this latest version should be entertaining.

It would be much more illustrative to know what country’s passport he traveled on as a young man, particularly when he was in college. But, I don’t see that information being released.

(BTW, I’m not a Constitutional attorney, nor an attorney at all and I don’t play one on TV. I just read a lot.)


65 posted on 04/27/2011 3:23:03 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: jersey117

Which would be fine for a category called “Nationality” or “Continent of Father’s Home Country” but that’s not what the box shows.


66 posted on 04/27/2011 3:24:41 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( No legit president needs to fake a birth certificate. Ever. )))))
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To: Uncle Slayton
NRO is covering for Obama.

Oh, too funny. Someone else said earlier that Fox News was also covering him.

Come on people, Obama is a US citizen and this conspiracy stuff makes us look like wackos. Trump now wants college transcripts, he's letting go of the birth certificate issue.

Trump is using us.

67 posted on 04/27/2011 3:28:12 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: avacado
Nope. Kapiolani was used in 1961. Here’s Elizabeth Nordyke’s certificate born August 5, 1961.

What? I was afraid that was too easy. But it still doesn't make sense. Here's a screenshot of the "About Us" page from the Kapiolani Med Ctr website that I took today:


68 posted on 04/27/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by Grim (That's why I'm voting for Sarah.)
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To: Tallguy

I ordered Corsi’s book last week and I think today’s unveiling of the bc torpedoes that book completely. I doubt anyone will have him on their shows to hawk a book that many will see as irrelevant.


69 posted on 04/27/2011 3:34:24 PM PDT by surrey
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To: FreedomFighter1013

post 5 in this fr thread has a better copy of this image

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711307/posts


70 posted on 04/27/2011 3:50:37 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: Tallguy

Feepers might know the name Jerome Corsi and be familiar with some of his work. I expect that Mr. Corsi will get exactly ZERO interviews with anything approaching a main-stream-media outlet. That being the case, why should Obama be afraid of Mr. Corsi’s book?


Corsi’s first interview is on Hannity...


71 posted on 04/27/2011 3:52:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: mnehring

are you a real posters ot a government software program designed to go on every thread and post this nonsense. A single document copied to this format would appear as 1 field. If what you are saying is true there would be lots of little fields.

There’s a video where they take out the various levels one at a time.


72 posted on 04/27/2011 3:54:18 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: stockpirate

I am a computer program. I even was able to go back in time and plant this file that shows that it wouldn’t appear as a single layer as some claim knowing in the future it would be needed.
http://image.unb.br/queiroz/papers/icip08mrc.pdf

I also planted that belief in the heads of millions of people who deal with document scanning such as all the folks who scan books where the scans create text layers.

Yep, I’m just an obama computer conspiracy, none of that is true, it is all just more proof it is fake because some bloggers say so.


73 posted on 04/27/2011 3:57:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Thanks for a post that should get more attention. The only thing the “layers” business proves is that the document was not provided in a form which allows any meaningful forensic analysis. While that might be suspicious in some cases, it’s really a non-issue here. What matters is whether the document as presented matches the record on file in Hawaii. If the custodian of records in Hawaii were to affirm that the document presented is a true and correct record, that’s as good as anything anyone can realistically ask for. If not, there would be no electronic document format that would allow for any type of certain authentication of the contents.

I do find it odd that Hawaiian officials seemed to make weasel statements regarding Obama’s earlier-posted “Certification of Live Birth”, since a lot of people would have been satisfied with a simple declaration that the information in that abstract precisely matched the original birth records.


74 posted on 04/27/2011 3:58:28 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Grim

“Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” is clearly the name shown on the certificates for the Nordyke twins born the same week.

All the leftists out there are just looking for posts like this so they can ramp up their ridicule of those that have legitimate concerns about this snake. Try to avoid giving them ammunition.


75 posted on 04/27/2011 4:07:37 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: mnehring

Watch this video and listen to this it splained to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk


76 posted on 04/27/2011 4:07:45 PM PDT by stockpirate (If they vote for socialism, support socialists, they're socialists duh....Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: spookie

I filled out the personal information on my daughter’s BC, including ‘race.’ My best guess is the same happened in this case. Obama Sr was a black man from Africa.. no doubt influenced by the pan-African movement represented by Jomo Kenyatta (sp). He probably just wasn’t used to the term ‘negro’ to describe himself. This wasn’t a ‘check the box’ sort of form. Obama Sr was conspicuously African and even though that isn’t a ‘race’ he probably put that down as his regardless.. or someone else did.


77 posted on 04/27/2011 4:15:22 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: stockpirate

I’ve seen it several times and it is obviously made by someone who is looking for any reason to say it is fake but doesn’t know what he is talking about; ignoring how most optical scanners work these days. The link I just posted, which predates all this by years and is unrelated to this issue, describes all the things that video says is proof, as normal parts of scanning.

Latching on to BS proof is just embarrassing our side and feeding ammo to our enemies.


78 posted on 04/27/2011 4:16:13 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bean Counter

As a nurse I had to decipher lousy Dr signatures all the time. when I see that I see ‘Vick Lee.’ The person’s name was most likely Victor Lee.. would be a good place to start.


79 posted on 04/27/2011 4:19:51 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: mnehring
Kapi'olani Maternity Home - Founded 1890
Kauikeolani Children's Hospital - Founded 1909
Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children - Founded 1978
Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital - Name on alleged Birth Certificate

This is confusing.

80 posted on 04/27/2011 4:20:32 PM PDT by Grim (That's why I'm voting for Sarah.)
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