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Are the Officials in Hawaii Nervous Yet? Associated Press Disseminates Misinformation - Again!
Post & Email ^ | April 24, 2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/24/2011 1:08:43 PM PDT by Red Steel

An article by the Associated Press published at The Drudge Report on April 23, 2011, states that “accessing some Obama birth info is easy” and repeats the false information that a “Certification of Live Birth” is “the only type of birth certificate the state issues.”

Just last week, reader and contributor Miki Booth had reported to The Post & Email that Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom “is well aware of the shenanigans going on at the Department of Health, and that he found out just today or yesterday that somebody received a long-form copy.  He said that they’re just “messing around” and are being very selective.”

Slom has expressed his own questions about why Obama would “spend millions of dollars” hiding his school records, public service records, and his original birth certificate from the American people.

Last month, a requester had obtained a copy of her daughter’s original Certificate of Live Birth from the Hawaii Department of Health without incident.  Reader and writer Miki Booth, whose husband and son were born in Hawaii, explained the differences between the “short-form” and “long-form” birth records to her  U.S. senator here.  As previously reported by The Post & Email, her son’s long-form birth certificate contains fields for such items as “the signature of the attending physician or midwife” and “Date received by local registrar.”  It also contains the signatures of both parents, their birthplaces, and address.

The “basic information about his [Obama's] birth” to which the writer of the AP article, Mark Niesse, refers, is called index data, which the  Hawaii Department of Health describes as “name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize…”

Although it is true that Obama’s name appears in the 1960-64

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; flopsweat; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: curiosity

What a surprise. Fukino incompetent and political. Who could have guessed?


21 posted on 04/24/2011 2:42:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Red Steel

“Shenanigans” have gone on in Hawaii since the place first got organized.

Even Chinese Nationalist President Sun Yat-Sen managed to get himself an “official” Hawaiian birth certificate when he was born near Canton, China in 1866.


22 posted on 04/24/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Red Steel

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


23 posted on 04/24/2011 3:04:12 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: TheBigJ
From what I recall, fukino has lied about the BC three times know. (I've paraphrased below)

1. I have personally seen it and verified the information on it.
2. The ‘fight the smears’ fake thingy is an updated short form of the original and is not fake.
3. The original now does not exist.

Also, the lib Gov. AberCommie basically said the same.

24 posted on 04/24/2011 3:09:50 PM PDT by redshawk (Hey 0'Pansy. I'm scratching my nose too; and not with my index finger!)
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To: Red Steel
" Thanks for the story! It fits the conclusion we have of Fukino."

But, But, But, we are told by some anti-birthers/Obots that government officials don't and can't lie and are to be trusted... Mega dose of sarcasm !!
25 posted on 04/24/2011 3:10:02 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cycle of discernment

“Obama might not have been properly vetted before the election but the fact that the majority of voters wanted him for president ‘trumps’ any unconstitutionality, fraud, deception or whatever. The voters in effect ‘vetted’ him. And that is the consensus of opinion in the Senate.”

...Sen. Mel Martinez, 2009

Martinez resigned his seat in a matter of weeks after spewing that garbage.


26 posted on 04/24/2011 3:10:29 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: fish hawk
EVEN IF Bozo was born in Hawaii, that does not make him a “natural born Citizen”.

That IS the real issue fish hawk. Keep it up. More people are catching, no thanks either to mainstream media, Donald Trump, or even, disappointingly, to one of my favorites, who seem unlikely to be a target of the FCC or Justice as Levin, Limbaugh, or Beck obviously would, Victor Davis Hanson, who doesn't understand the definition of natural-born citizenship, or that it is different from native-born citizenship, the category Barack used for himself.

There are but two fundamental types of citizenship, natural, and naturalized. Naturalized citizenship comes from the Constitutional authorization of Congress to “Create An Uniform Code of Naturalization.” Natural citizenship comes from natural-law, from whence came most definitions used by our framers. By far the most popular exposition of 'the natural law', the most cited legal reference in all American jurisprudence between 1779 and 1821, is Vattel's Law of Nations. Currently, it is anathema, because, while it is not the only source for the definition of natural born, 'native,' 'indigenous,' or 'birthright' citizenship, it is the most concise, in the libraries of Jefferson, Washington, Madison, Jay, Marshall, Wilson...every founder and framer.

Read Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny, p37, Madison's letter explaining why the natural language is important - it preserves the intention of our founders. The meanings of words change over time.

Barack defined himself in the terms of Title 8 from US Code, based upon the 14th Amendment. The only reference you will find to ‘natural-born’ or ‘natural born citizen’ in the U.S. code is to the Constitution. But you will find over three thousand references to ‘native-born.’ Barack what honest. Born in the U.S. of a citizen mother and alien father he is naturalized at birth by the 14th Amendment and Title 8. The 14th Amendment made slaves citizens, not natural-born citizen. It made Wong Kim Ark a citizen, not a natural born citizen.

The law, while obscure to most, inluding to this writer in the fall of 2008, is clear. Search Patlin, or rxsid, or Bushpilot on Free Republic for more documents than you will have time to read. Read Hamilton's letter to Washington about the primacy of Vattel. Read Ben Franklin explaining that the first three English editions of Law of Nations he provided to his colleagues in the Colonies before 1776 were in constant use (may have been 1762, but read rxsid for the exact date, and an image of Franklin's letter to Dumas). Vattel was our first law book at our first law school created by Jefferson at William and Mary in 1779. Chief Justice John Marshall, a student at William and Mary in 1880, cited Vattel when he provided the definition, one of at least a dozen citations, in The Venus, 12 U.S. 253, paragraph 289- “...Born on the soil of citizen parents.”

Let someone write a fascinating true biography of the man at the center of the greatest fraud in our history. But first, learn why he is not a natural born citizen, and what it means for a usurper to sign contracts, laws, affecting the whole nation. Learn what it means for a usurper to have caused the deaths of thousands in foreign nations, and hundreds of our soldiers, having directed our military, whose officers are derilict in not honoring our Constitution as their oath requires. An Army judge altered the chain of command to prosecute a heroic Army Surgeon who did ask the correct question; they put the doctor, Lt.Col Lakin in Leavenworth, which is where those JAG officers belong after we have returned the Constitution to its primacy. They want you preoccupied with the soap opera while our nation is being dismantled, your savings and your children's future are being stolen. Read a bit, and learn the truth. Most of these articles filled with titillating allegations are to distract you. The allegations are superfluous when we have clearly stated laws, laws reiterated by every Senator in April of 2008, by the Democrat-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee, in Senate Resolution 511, signed by every senator including Barack Obama from which hearings you will find the following clarification:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

Ask why our senators passed a resolution declaring their interpretation of the Constitution as it applied to Senator McClain, but didn't chose to apply it to Obama, even though they were explicitly asked, by registered letters from, at least, a retired Naval Commander, Charles Kerchner, to do so.

27 posted on 04/24/2011 3:11:42 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: harpu

That’s right and it drives me wild to hear Trump and other Obama doubters say that 0 has only produced a “Certificate of Live Birth.” NO! That’s what we WANT him to produce. All he has published is the computerized, garbage in-garbage out, “CERTIFICATION” of Live Birth.


28 posted on 04/24/2011 3:14:26 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Red Steel

Just like the John Edwards scandal you will only get the truth about liberals from the Tabloids....


29 posted on 04/24/2011 3:39:57 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: Typical_Whitey
HELP!!! Yoo Hoo!!! Are there any really knowledgeable Birthers out there!!! I think I just discovered something!!! I am fighting with a Obot on another forum, and he just gave me this really big COLB, and I just noticed something. The COLB says right on it, at the bottom: ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE Then, up above where it has CERTIFICATE NO..it is BLACKED OUT. Which is a ALTERATION. Which means the PICTURE on the Internet is INVALIDATED, right??? Sooo, has this ever come up before??? because if it hasn't then there never has been a UN-INVALIDATED COLB on the Internet??? Right??? Gratewire Forum
30 posted on 04/24/2011 3:54:06 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky

Just ask them what the hell race is “African” anyway.


31 posted on 04/24/2011 4:05:03 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: pepsionice
Man, I can’t believe that...Shirley MacLaine bedded 3 guys in one day? That’s even bigger than the birth certificate story.

*****

And exactly what are you referring to by your use of the term "bigger" above?

Shouldn't the Shirley article read "I was raped by 3 unkown men in one night"?

Let me be serious for a minute: This is what is so sad about the Globe front page: We probably know more details about private citizens Shirley MacLaine and her brother actor Warren Beatty then we know about---or ever hope to know about---the life of the President of the United States, Obama. Sad. Very sad.

32 posted on 04/24/2011 4:05:07 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Squeeky

Be careful about barking, you’re barely a pup.


33 posted on 04/24/2011 4:09:37 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Red Steel

very interesting.

Bump for later reference


34 posted on 04/24/2011 4:26:32 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: eyedigress

OH, I have just been beating the Obotski WITH LOGIC like carpets over a clothesline!!! After they get through calling you names and trying to intimidate you, they haven’t got much. It’s really pretty easy.


35 posted on 04/24/2011 4:29:19 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Red Steel

Just ask them....
1. What hospital was Obama born in?
2. What is the name of the doctor who delivered him?

Why can’t they answer these questions?


36 posted on 04/24/2011 4:33:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Windflier
The Obama birth certificate issue is now the number one discussion topic at Amazon.com forums.

That must be a sight to see the liberals trying to play catch-up within the debate. I just creamed a liberal on a different forum. It ended with him insulting my mother:VICTORY!

37 posted on 04/24/2011 4:36:51 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Squeeky

Let me know when they answer the “African Race” question. Meanwhile I just write European.


38 posted on 04/24/2011 4:37:46 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: CommieCutter
I just creamed a liberal on a different forum

Good deal! Bringing the truth out to the world! I also post on other forums where there are indepedents and liberals.

That's how we educate the rest of the country!

39 posted on 04/24/2011 4:44:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

My philosophy is that you won’t change the mind of the person you’re debating, but you might sway the person who is watching. There’s more people reading these than you realize.


40 posted on 04/24/2011 4:48:39 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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