Posted on 04/12/2011 2:07:15 PM PDT by kevinaw2
Ann Coulter was being interviewed by Sean Hannity last night and she succinctly laid out the case against Trump and this resurgent interest in an Obama birth certificate. I've always thought this story was crap from day one. First, as Ann Coulter points out there is fundamentally no difference between the long form birth certificate and short form. They are both certified.
Personally, I think the Obama team is loving the attention being given to it because it gives them an opportunity to force each prospective GOP candidate for President to answer the question and take away vital time from important issues like oh.....the economy,gas prices,the national debt, etc. Trump is making a fool of himself and risks everyone being tarred with his foolishness. To all the "birthers", I ask this: Do you really think ruthless characters like Bill and Hillary Clinton could not have found the evidence and used it against him? The Clinton's of "war room" politics? Those liberal versions of Nixonian politics and paranoia?
If not the Clinton's then how about conservative iconic publications like "Human Events" and "The American Spectator" as Ann Coulter pointed out. I loathe and utterly detest conspiracy theories as they are the product of irrational supposition from incomplete portraits suggesting an inability to differentiate chance and order. The notion that everything is the product of planning is absurd.
The absurdity of this crackpot theory is rooted in the bizarre notion that the infant Obama was identified at birth as a future President and an intense cover up was implemented to shield the truth. All this over a man no one had ever heard of as recent as 2004 before his keynote address at the DNC. John Kerry chose him to deliver the speech, so maybe he was in on the plot, huh?
It's time to stop with the irrational and ignore desperate pleas for attention from media whores like Donald Trump. Our stake in the future of the nation is too important to waste placating the vanity of a man who will leave egg on all our faces. Sean's interview with Ann Coulter is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7zd0mMRSE&feature=player_embedded
Yes, I guess that if they didn’t notice the flaws they would have no way of realizing that others would.
Kind of makes sense in that light, but how incompetent are these people really? That they are that bad is actually pretty scary considering they probably have positions in the administration.
It’s as if we turned the country over to some kindergarten somewhere and told the kiddies to fix all the problems.
I asked you who is the source for the short form birth certificate that’s on the internet? Who is the source for the birth announcement?
And a short form birth certificate can be obtained after the birth and without the baby being present.
http://gen.doh.hawaii.gov/sites/har/AdmRules1/8%208A%20B%20VR%20Admin%20Rules.pdf
As to Fukino's statement that Obama's long form has a doctor's signature, you can find it here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics
Factcheck.
Who is the source for the birth announcement?
Numerous independent sources, including some birthers, have verified that the birth announcements are on the microfilm at the Honolulu public library.
Ok, I don’t know if you listened to the video at the link, but I did. Isakoff does NOT say Medical record in that interview. The written portion of the story DOES. Ok, taking that at face value, why not release it?
It makes this all go away. Why not release it?
This goes back to a point I have been making all along. It is irrelevant where Obama was born. His Father was British. Obama was never a Natural Born Citizen of the United States for an instant.
I have argued for literally years now, that where Obama was born is irrelevant. I have asserted several times that I believe he has legitimate documents in the Hawaiian archives.
They are irrelevant.
The Birth Certificate is a red cape to a bull, it serves to distract the public. The real issue is Natural Born Citizenship, and we NEED to get past this STUPID and IRRELEVANT COLB issue to get to it.
OK, so Fukino is coming out with more information, GREAT, can we get to the REAL issue now??
Thanks for helping us all to get over the hump.
Because he doesn't want it to go away. It's dividing his opposition and already distrupting the GOP primary and creating a massive distraction for the GOP electorate. For crying out loud, it's already got a RINO clown, namely Trump, polling in first place! And he's threatening to pull a Perot if he loses the nomination, all because of this birther nonsense. Even the reasonable, non-birther candidates are being forced to answer questions on birther issues, which takes the focus off fiscal and national security issues that are key to winning the general election.
This goes back to a point I have been making all along. It is irrelevant where Obama was born.
If you really believe that, why do you spend so much time arguing about the birth certificate?
His Father was British. Obama was never a Natural Born Citizen of the United States for an instant.
Sigh. That's an argument for another day. Good night.
Was Trump a patriot when he stated Hillary is ready to be Commander in Chief?
Was he a patriot when he supported John Kerry for president? Or when he wanted the marxist dream of universal healthcare for our country?
*sigh*
I'll ask again, who is the source for the short form birth certificate that's on the Internet? Who exactly is the source for the birth announcement that's on the Internet?
If someone in the highest position of this country is allowed to break the law then why should any of us have to obey any law?
Ann has lost her credibility as a conservative.
Following her or her opinions may be fatal to your conservatism.
Going RINO.
Actually, Obama has never produced his COLB in any official setting where it could be examined.
If the Factcheck.org COLB is legit, why didnt Obama and his lawyers submit it as evidence in all [12?] court cases rather than spend over $2 mm fighting over standing?
Reason: Rules of Evidence. The other side could challenge the authenticity of the COLB under oath.
This alone is the smoking gun.
You’re absolutely right!
Exactly.
Why should I pay taxes? Short answer to that is I should not. We don’t have a legitimate government. The only thing keeping it running is the continued assumption that it has any validity. It is only an assumption. We the people, upon recognizing that our government has overstepped its bounds, have the right to disavow it, and dissolve it. We get to choose how to do that, not the government. It gets to dissolve.
Sorry for the lack of replies. I just don’t always find the time. Busier than normal
You can reply now.
I agree the entire Adminstration should resign in disgrace-but sadly, that would never happen.
Having been on active duty myself, it would suck not knowing if my CinC was a fraud. You deserve the zot.
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