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MSNBC's Strange Obsession with the Confederacy
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/12/2011 | Matt Philbin

Posted on 04/12/2011 10:16:17 AM PDT by patriotgal71

Tuesday, April 12 marks the 150th anniversary of the bombardment of Fort Sumter and the start of the U.S. Civil War. Over the next four years, the nation will be commemorating the bloody events of a century and a half ago, pondering their meaning and their place in history. Media outlets will produce features on the valor and the squalor, the heroes, martyrs and villains, and what they mean to today’s Americans.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: confederacy; conservatives; liberals; msnbc
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1 posted on 04/12/2011 10:16:23 AM PDT by patriotgal71
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To: patriotgal71

This forum has a cadre of revolving South bashers.

maybe MSNBC is their day job.


2 posted on 04/12/2011 10:18:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: wardaddy
This forum has a cadre of revolving South bashers.

Fortunately one of the most notorious was zotted in December (a wonderful Christmas present from the boss). And the others have seemingly been on better behavior over the past few months.

The zottee reminded me of Chris Matthews in many ways for his unabashed hatred of all things pertaining to South. The South is our nation's bulwark against Socialism with solid, reliably Christian Conservative values. It's also the one region embracing the liberty of right-to-work laws to oppose the oppression of forced unionism.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 10:29:57 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: patriotgal71
My take on the Civil War-

My ancestor Patrick Slain was a Union cavalryman. There were gallant, honest men fighting on both sides. The media loves to harp on slavery, which was not by any stretch the main issue at the time, and I believe that the South was considering banning slavery - I don't recall if it was on the table for after the war, or if the Europeans got involved, or what (look it up).

I don't think Lincoln was the devil incarnate, as some seem to. I don't think the confederates were imps from hell, as most seem to believe.

Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

That said, I don't believe by a longshot that the south will rise again. Its over.

4 posted on 04/12/2011 10:34:53 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: re_nortex

Who was the zottee?


5 posted on 04/12/2011 10:36:13 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Celtic Cross; central_va
Who was the zottee?

None other than the aptly named Non-Sequitur. I've pinged central va because there was indeed much rejoicing throughout the land when that anti-Southern bigot (and defender of sexual deviants) left our company.

6 posted on 04/12/2011 10:43:02 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Celtic Cross; SunkenCiv

my ancestors fought for the CSA. I even have a confederate sword.


7 posted on 04/12/2011 10:56:12 AM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: Celtic Cross
Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

My mom's family are all Southerners and I would have had the good fortune to have been born in Texas had my dad not been killed in WWII just before my birth. My mom had to head back to his family in Pennsylvania, thus, through no fault of my own, I was born in a Yankee state.

Nevertheless, even while being raised in a forced-union state, even as a child I had a strong affinity for the South. In elementary school, I became good friends with a little girl whose father had transferred to Pittsburgh from Beaumount for one of the steel and pipe companies. Her accent, well-bred manners and charm only confirmed my attitudes about the South.

Interestingly, as I pen this message, I'm reading a book by Henry Miller (yes, I know he was a Socialist, so forgive me but I read a wide variety of authors) who came back to visit America after living abroad in France for years. The only part of the country he found to his liking was the South of the 1940's because of the genuinely authentic people. Miller is wrong on so many things but he did evaluate that correctly.

I opted to head South for college and then ultimately decided on Texas as my home. Although we have far too many Messkins here, the strong Christian Conservative values still live on in this grand portion of Dixie.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 11:00:05 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

let me know if you need any accurate information about the Confederacy and the Union. I am busy and am not an historian but I’ll do my best.

Oh, and it was the South that gave us Pres Wilson and FDR. The Republican monopoly on the country, 1965 to 1913, was broken.


9 posted on 04/12/2011 11:03:31 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: Celtic Cross
Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

I too am a Northerner, and freely admit that the South had it right when it came to States' rights.

10 posted on 04/12/2011 11:04:08 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: re_nortex

He’s back and his new name is K-Stater. We need Jim’s help again.


11 posted on 04/12/2011 11:11:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Born and raised in TN & AL, I can rightfully say that the South is a state of mind, not a location. You have to be part of it to understand.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 11:14:04 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: patriotgal71

The Civil War was NOT about Slavery,in fact Grant had some interesting comments on that subject.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 11:15:31 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: re_nortex
None other than the aptly named Non-Sequitur.

He and I had more than one "discussion" about the south - and he was always WRONG!
14 posted on 04/12/2011 11:16:20 AM PDT by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: wardaddy

The South lost, the North won.

Get over it, you Johnny Reb, You!


15 posted on 04/12/2011 11:21:47 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: WVNan; LUV W

I don’t doubt that for a moment.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 11:23:04 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Celtic Cross

I had ancestors on both sides of the war, so my comments are, I hope carefully constructed not to show disrespected for those family members who sent their sons off to fight with the CSA, namely with the 11th and 23rd NC, and any Southern Freepers, But if MSNBC wants to focus on something, why don’t they focus the Political Parties in power at the time in the Industrialized anti-slavery North and the pro-slavery secessionist South. I think they will finds as far as the political powers behind the causes of the war, it was very largely a Republican vs. Democrat confrontation.


17 posted on 04/12/2011 11:34:01 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Celtic Cross

I always hobbied reading about the Civil War. Even as a young child I would actually listen to the Gettysburg audio tour at my house while I played w/ my army men. Yes, I will admit that.

I was the one in class always arguing that the south wasn’t fighting primarily b/c of slavery, but for state rights.

However, I do like Lincoln and find him to be one of my favorite Presidents.

Also, If you ever get a chance to go to Gettysburg and see a reenactment, please do so. They are really entertaining and a lot of fun. Especially for a family. I plan on taking mine when I have one.


18 posted on 04/12/2011 11:49:55 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
Also, If you ever get a chance to go to Gettysburg and see a reenactment, please do so. They are really entertaining and a lot of fun.

And if you're musically-inclined, Hank William's Jr. song, IF THE SOUTH WOULDA WON is also great fun (regardless of how you stand on The War of Yankee Aggression, The War of Southern Rebellion, The War Between the States, The Civil War or whatever you may call it).

19 posted on 04/12/2011 12:18:57 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I am pleased that you recognize that southron state of mind! You have experienced it first hand, I think!!

....and Texas IS a state of mind in itself, of course, doncha know! :D


20 posted on 04/12/2011 1:45:51 PM PDT by luvie (God is in control)
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