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Another Look at Obama’s Social Security Number
Cashill.com ^ | 3-17-11 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE

While out promoting my new book, “Deconstructing Obama,” I have been asked a few times about Obama’s mysterious Social Security number.

Not knowing enough to speak authoritatively, I chose to swim upstream through the data flood and head for the source.

Here I found a no-nonsense licensed investigator from Ohio named Susan Daniels. Widowed at 30 with seven children, Daniels went back to school and eventually emerged as a certified paralegal.

After several years working for others, Daniels got her own license as an investigator in 1995. Since then, she has specialized in litigation support for law firms. Her particular strength has been in researching assets.

By her own admission, Daniels is “good with public records.” She knows her way around databases and has access to many that the public does not.

“I did not like the way things were going,” Daniels says of the country’s drift circa 2009. And so in the best spirit of citizen journalism, she began to investigate Obama on her own.

What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a social security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.

This will not come as news to the readers of WorldNetDaily, whose thorough investigation climaxed last June when WND’s veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving confronted Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs on the subject.

Predictably, Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate. Kinsolving had seen this kind of laugh and switch before. In 1982, for instance, he introduced the subject of AIDS to then press secretary Larry Speakes.

“Over a third of [the victims] have died,” said Kinsolving. “It’s known as ‘gay plague.’”

“I don’t have it. Do you?” joked Speakes to a general round of laughter. But unlike Gibbs, Speakes simply did not know any better.

As much as Daniels appreciates the work of WND and other serious investigators who have helped clarify the picture, she is distressed by the few who have clouded it.

“There have been many playing junior investigator from the start,” she jokes. “I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet.”

This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world’s best-known social security number--042-68-4425.

“All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response.

“Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency,” crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.

One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason either.

For the second, Jinkins cited the argument of Carole Glibert, in the Yahoo-related “Associated Content.” Said Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, “In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?”

Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.

Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.”

This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.

“They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”

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KEYWORDS: cashill; certifigate; connecticut; jackcashill; obama; obamassn; obamassns; obbama; socialsecnumbers
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To: curiosity
Ok, I'll bite. You are aware that he would have needed to fill out the application for a Social Security number and submitted it to any LOCAL office (along with the required corresponding documents), aren't you?

Are you saying that Hawaiian SS officials would have assigned him the Connecticut prefix?

121 posted on 03/23/2011 7:42:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: EDINVA

LOL. My grandparents were from the Depression Era. I’m the oldest 40-year old I know. :) My kids get the traditional apple, orange, banana, and walnuts (or pecans) in their Christmas stockings. They understand the meaning and promise to pass it on.

Hmmmm. Got my SSN in 1982. I wouldn’t have had my mother’s SSN or had any way to get it. And I don’t remember it being required. I know it required my mother’s maiden name because that didn’t match between my BC and their divorce decree. Shouldn’t be hard to find hard copies of 1977 - 1979 SSA forms in the national archives. I’ll see what I can dig up.

“Brackets.” I love it and am going to use it.


122 posted on 03/23/2011 7:50:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: liberalh8ter; curiosity

It didn’t work that way in 1977 - 1979 when Obama’s was supposedly assigned.

The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html


123 posted on 03/23/2011 7:54:23 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: liberalh8ter; curiosity

It didn’t work that way in 1977 - 1979 when Obama’s was supposedly assigned.

The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html


124 posted on 03/23/2011 7:54:42 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

SAD was married to Lolo Soetoro when Obama’s SSN was issued. Hollister queried with “Barack Obama.” I’d have to guess that Obama was “Barry Soetoro” at that time. Of course, I have no idea. As I said earlier, I’m just throwing out stuff. Nobody knows the truth.

So why did he use Barack Obama on his alleged draft registration and in Punahou School since 5th grade?

also a query of wrong name should have come back as either 5 or 6 not 1 never issued

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnvshandbk/SSNresults.htm

SSN VERIFICATION RESULTS

On the SSN Verification Results web page, a table is displayed with the results for name and SSN verification requests submitted online. In addition, a tally is displayed showing the total number of:
•Records submitted,
•Failed,
•Deceased and
•Verified.

VERIFIED

The SSN submitted for verification matches SSA’s records.

•A “blank” Verification Results field = a verified SSN.

For security reasons, if the record has a “blank” Verification Results field, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.

FAILED VERIFICATION

For security reasons, if the record has a verification code of 2, 3, 4 or 6, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.

Verification Results Code - The following is the list of FAILED verification codes.

•1 = SSN not in file (never issued).

•2 = Name and DOB match; gender code does not match.

•3 = Name and gender code match; DOB does not match.

•4 = Name matches; DOB and gender code do not match.

•5 = Name does not match; DOB and gender code not checked.

•6 = SSN did not verify; other reason.


125 posted on 03/23/2011 7:58:42 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: WVNan
...explain Thomas wood who applied for that # and then died.

You need to read the article again. Wood's number was one before Obama's

126 posted on 03/23/2011 8:04:10 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: rolling_stone

I can’t answer those questions without knowing more about the database and how it is used. I think some claim that Obama’s SSN belonged to a man born in 1890. If that were the case (and SSN are not re-issued,) then Hollister’s query should have returned a 5 or 6 as you suggested.

Perhaps his legal name was Soetoro after the adoption but he went by Obama because he started kindergarten as Obama. I have no idea.


127 posted on 03/23/2011 8:08:41 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: charleywhiskey
I think it has been established that the SSN assigned to Mr. Jean Paul Ludwig when he resided in Connecticut is the same one used by Mr. Obama when he filed his Selective Service Card.

I'd like to know the steps you took to arrive at this conclusion.

128 posted on 03/23/2011 8:41:07 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon; charleywhiskey

Ditto. How has that been established? Please tell me y’all are not relying on Orly Taitz’ research for that one.


129 posted on 03/23/2011 9:00:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Kleon; charleywhiskey

Ditto. How has that been established? Please tell me y’all are not relying on Orly Taitz’ research for that one.


130 posted on 03/23/2011 9:00:13 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: rolling_stone; BuckeyeTexan
Well how does Obies SS number never being issued fit with y’all’s theory? Another typ0?

If true, it would be a big problem. But I don't know whether it's true or not, since I'm not a business owner and can't access the SSN verification database myself. All I have is Col. Hollister's word about the SSN not checking out, and given his history of lying, I frankly don't believe him. If you can find someone else who is credible who also found that Bambi's SSN didn't check out, then I would take it seriously.

131 posted on 03/23/2011 9:06:43 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: BuckeyeTexan
SAD was married to Lolo Soetoro when Obama’s SSN was issued. Hollister queried with “Barack Obama.” I’d have to guess that Obama was “Barry Soetoro” at that time.

No, that's not plausible. By all accounts, Obama never went by "Soetoro." My hunch is that Mr. Hollister is lying. I'll look into it further.

132 posted on 03/23/2011 9:10:09 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Hadn’t heard that about Hollister. He has screen shots of the query results on his blog. Wonder if they’re photochopped or real. Can you freepmail me the info you have on Hollister, a link or something?


133 posted on 03/23/2011 9:18:10 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: CommieCutter
Plus the fact it was already issued to a person who was born in 1890.

Link? Is the person still kicking (at age 121)? If not, then why isn't the number in the SSDI?

Please stop posting garbage.

134 posted on 03/23/2011 9:37:53 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: curiosity

My hunch is that Mr. Hollister is lying. I’ll look into it further.

Yeah right, where has Mr. Hollister lied?

How about you, is this true?
...Just type the 042 social security number that is attributed to him into the selective service website, and his name pops up. So yes, indeed, we do know that is his genuine SSN....

That doesn’t mean its his genuine SS number it could be either that he used that number when he registered and it could still be a bad number or his draft registration is fake. Sheesh....Amazing how no other draft registrations from Hawaii had only the last two digits of the year and not all ie 1980 ..his draft registration is suspect for a number of reasons.

....Last week Sonoran News received a response to a FOIA request for 17 SS records for the purpose of making comparisons.

Every single one of them has a four-digit year stamp, including two registrations processed at the very same post office, one within days of Obama’s.

http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100303/webonlyObama.html


135 posted on 03/23/2011 9:46:14 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: charleywhiskey
I think it has been established that the SSN assigned to Mr. Jean Paul Ludwig when he resided in Connecticut is the same one used by Mr. Obama when he filed his Selective Service Card.

This Mr Ludwig. Is he still living? If not, why isn't he in the SSDI?

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136 posted on 03/23/2011 9:47:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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. . . . # 28 .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2692923/posts?page=28#28

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137 posted on 03/23/2011 10:38:10 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: faucetman

Gee, I thought that was illegal! Wonder what would happen if we started doing the same as our teleprompter in chief!


138 posted on 03/23/2011 10:40:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (“Too often, Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep"...RUN SARAH RUN!!)
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To: PA Engineer; All
HE HAD A DEAD MAN'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

I suspect if one could look through the Honolulu obits from that time that one would find a certain old single/widowed Connecticut man with few close relatives. I also suspect he had business with a certain Honolulu bank and it's vice president.

139 posted on 03/23/2011 11:10:43 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: DustyMoment
Ok, if we assume that this is what actually happened, how did Obama actually GET the SS card? It would have been mailed to an incorrect address in CT!!

Shhh, you'll confuse them.

140 posted on 03/23/2011 11:27:51 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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