Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE
Are you saying that Hawaiian SS officials would have assigned him the Connecticut prefix?
LOL. My grandparents were from the Depression Era. I’m the oldest 40-year old I know. :) My kids get the traditional apple, orange, banana, and walnuts (or pecans) in their Christmas stockings. They understand the meaning and promise to pass it on.
Hmmmm. Got my SSN in 1982. I wouldn’t have had my mother’s SSN or had any way to get it. And I don’t remember it being required. I know it required my mother’s maiden name because that didn’t match between my BC and their divorce decree. Shouldn’t be hard to find hard copies of 1977 - 1979 SSA forms in the national archives. I’ll see what I can dig up.
“Brackets.” I love it and am going to use it.
It didn’t work that way in 1977 - 1979 when Obama’s was supposedly assigned.
The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
It didn’t work that way in 1977 - 1979 when Obama’s was supposedly assigned.
The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
SAD was married to Lolo Soetoro when Obamas SSN was issued. Hollister queried with Barack Obama. Id have to guess that Obama was Barry Soetoro at that time. Of course, I have no idea. As I said earlier, Im just throwing out stuff. Nobody knows the truth.
So why did he use Barack Obama on his alleged draft registration and in Punahou School since 5th grade?
also a query of wrong name should have come back as either 5 or 6 not 1 never issued
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnvshandbk/SSNresults.htm
SSN VERIFICATION RESULTS
On the SSN Verification Results web page, a table is displayed with the results for name and SSN verification requests submitted online. In addition, a tally is displayed showing the total number of:
Records submitted,
Failed,
Deceased and
Verified.
VERIFIED
The SSN submitted for verification matches SSA’s records.
A “blank” Verification Results field = a verified SSN.
For security reasons, if the record has a “blank” Verification Results field, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.
FAILED VERIFICATION
For security reasons, if the record has a verification code of 2, 3, 4 or 6, the first five (5) positions of the SSN will be masked with an “X”.
Verification Results Code - The following is the list of FAILED verification codes.
1 = SSN not in file (never issued).
2 = Name and DOB match; gender code does not match.
3 = Name and gender code match; DOB does not match.
4 = Name matches; DOB and gender code do not match.
5 = Name does not match; DOB and gender code not checked.
6 = SSN did not verify; other reason.
You need to read the article again. Wood's number was one before Obama's
I can’t answer those questions without knowing more about the database and how it is used. I think some claim that Obama’s SSN belonged to a man born in 1890. If that were the case (and SSN are not re-issued,) then Hollister’s query should have returned a 5 or 6 as you suggested.
Perhaps his legal name was Soetoro after the adoption but he went by Obama because he started kindergarten as Obama. I have no idea.
I'd like to know the steps you took to arrive at this conclusion.
Ditto. How has that been established? Please tell me y’all are not relying on Orly Taitz’ research for that one.
Ditto. How has that been established? Please tell me y’all are not relying on Orly Taitz’ research for that one.
If true, it would be a big problem. But I don't know whether it's true or not, since I'm not a business owner and can't access the SSN verification database myself. All I have is Col. Hollister's word about the SSN not checking out, and given his history of lying, I frankly don't believe him. If you can find someone else who is credible who also found that Bambi's SSN didn't check out, then I would take it seriously.
No, that's not plausible. By all accounts, Obama never went by "Soetoro." My hunch is that Mr. Hollister is lying. I'll look into it further.
Hadn’t heard that about Hollister. He has screen shots of the query results on his blog. Wonder if they’re photochopped or real. Can you freepmail me the info you have on Hollister, a link or something?
Link? Is the person still kicking (at age 121)? If not, then why isn't the number in the SSDI?
Please stop posting garbage.
My hunch is that Mr. Hollister is lying. I’ll look into it further.
Yeah right, where has Mr. Hollister lied?
How about you, is this true?
...Just type the 042 social security number that is attributed to him into the selective service website, and his name pops up. So yes, indeed, we do know that is his genuine SSN....
That doesn’t mean its his genuine SS number it could be either that he used that number when he registered and it could still be a bad number or his draft registration is fake. Sheesh....Amazing how no other draft registrations from Hawaii had only the last two digits of the year and not all ie 1980 ..his draft registration is suspect for a number of reasons.
....Last week Sonoran News received a response to a FOIA request for 17 SS records for the purpose of making comparisons.
Every single one of them has a four-digit year stamp, including two registrations processed at the very same post office, one within days of Obamas.
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100303/webonlyObama.html
This Mr Ludwig. Is he still living? If not, why isn't he in the SSDI?
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Gee, I thought that was illegal! Wonder what would happen if we started doing the same as our teleprompter in chief!
I suspect if one could look through the Honolulu obits from that time that one would find a certain old single/widowed Connecticut man with few close relatives. I also suspect he had business with a certain Honolulu bank and it's vice president.
Shhh, you'll confuse them.
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