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Does President Obama Have a Bogus Social Security Number?
Blogspot.com ^ | 03/17/2011 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/18/2011 5:49:15 AM PDT by safetysign

"All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response."


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; bogusssnumber; certifigate; election; fraud; impeach; kagandirtytricks; kaganresumefraud; naturalborncitizen; noaccountability; nobc; nodocumentation; nojustice; obama; resumefraud
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To: Gondring

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/02/obamas-social-security-number/

“The Soetoro adoption was voided and Barry name was legally changed to Barack Hussein Obama, born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI. The Court ordered a new vital record to be created and “filed” with the Hawai’i DoH. The vital record is not “accepted” because there is no attestion by a doctor or hospital administrator.”

“The Court does not have jurisdiction to naturalize an Indonesian citizen. Naturalization is an Executive Branch function. BHO II would have had to present himself to the U.S. Embassy in Honolulu, HI to apply to recover his U.S. Citizenship and take an Oath of Allegiance to naturalize.”

“The reason Barack’s SSN, beginning with 042, doesn’t match his state or zip code when applying was because BHO II used the services of American Resettlement Organization (ARO) to obtain his SSN. Most likely the ARO was Headquartered in Connecticut or New York.”


41 posted on 03/18/2011 7:42:20 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: kidd

ARO = American Resettlement Organization


42 posted on 03/18/2011 7:47:14 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
BHO II would have had to present himself to the U.S. Embassy in Honolulu, HI to apply to recover his U.S. Citizenship and take an Oath of Allegiance to naturalize

That cannot be correct. There are no US embassies in any US city. Must mean the State Department office in HI, but I'm not sure if naturalization is their function or not.

43 posted on 03/18/2011 8:16:15 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Gondring

Frankly I find the SS# question an even redder legal herring than the birth certificate. I keep asking why it is significant and if anyone truly believes that even multiple SS#s would ever be prosecuted much less held up in court if those courts have chosen to overlook the more legitimate Constitutional questions. There are some ‘birthers’ who have deep, historical knowledge I couldn’t begin to touch; others, not so much.

I merely posted about my own experience applying simultaneously for three (3) SS#’s. If called upon (not likely) I would be willing to swear to that experience and its result in a court of law. To what avail, God only knows.

I would note that my spouse and 3 children were born in the same jurisdiction from which their SS#’s were issued. All four fall within a similar, if not identical, series for ‘area number’ as the SSA terms the first 3 digits. That difference, of course, would be attributable to the intervening decades between their births.

I have dealt with clients born in that same jurisdiction that has already surpassed the numbering formerly used and whose area number is completely different from my family’s area number series. So there are new overlay numbers already in play, much like cell phones.


44 posted on 03/18/2011 8:22:38 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jrd

I know that she and others have talked about multiple SS#’s but not sure if she ever filed anything in court about it. Would not be surprised if she did.


45 posted on 03/18/2011 8:34:28 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Texas Fossil; opentalk

How could this be (ARO)be accurate? Social security numbers are not recycled. This looks like identity theft.

Quoting opentalk’s post:

“—According to CDR Kerchner, that the SSN 042-68-4425 Obama uses once belonged to a Sean Paul Ludwig who was born in 1890”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2690110/posts?q=1&;page=51


46 posted on 03/18/2011 9:47:55 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
Social security numbers are not recycled.

Unless, a "spook agency" does it. There are things that are only possible if CIA, DEA, NSA, etc do it.

All this says is there is something very very strange how the "Won" came to sleep at 1600 Penn. Ave. Both Parties and all 3 branches of the Fed. Government know that he is ineligible to hold the office of POTUS. None the less he is there. He is a Post Turtle. He does not belong there. He did not get there by himself. But the question is what fools put him there. (I am not talking about the voters)

47 posted on 03/18/2011 12:14:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: safetysign

If you want to be enlightened about Obama being a Fraud,

Read Jack Cashill’s Deconstructing Obama!!

It is truthful, factual & enlightening!!

I wish this would go to the top of the best Seller’s Book List.

Jack talks about other Literary Frauds.... Facinating Book!!

It makes me angry!!

All this information has been presented about Obama’s Fraud & the MSM

ignores this information!!

Read Deconstructing Obama by Jack Cashill & tell others!!!

This Fraud needs to be removed from the WH before he destroys

Our Country!!


48 posted on 03/18/2011 12:36:05 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: EDINVA
The amazing thing is that these SSN goofs are amateur-level mistakes (not even rookie mistakes!), and it's obvious from the wording WND uses that they know that there's nothing behind these claims. But they allow WND to whip up some subscriptions and donations, even if it makes their readers look like fools.

They know most people don't know much about the topic and won't take the time to learn about it more than superficially. Trouble is, I actually went to 5315 Gorniak Drive in Parlin, NJ, for example (one of the places Orly Taitz claimed President Obama listed as an address), and guess what...there are people named Obama who aren't the same one as the guy in the big White House.

If John Smith becomes President, Hoo-Boy! Using their methods shown here, the birther hucksters (those who are pushing the stuff they know are red herrings) would be claiming thousands of false addresses were used by the guy!

And, of course, the SSA has even said: One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information.

You're right about the area numbers changing for locations. Also, the group numbers don't go in numerical sequential order; for example, 02 follows 98. The SSA posts the High Group lists every month: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnvhighgroup.htm
But as I wrote above, in a few months, they are going to be freezing that list and randomizing: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/randomization.html

There might very well be something fishy, but this just makes them look like bozos.

49 posted on 03/18/2011 12:45:57 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

“If you look at the 042-68-#### series, you can see that there’s a broad range of birthdates that doesn’t make sense if they were sequential. And the SSA has even announced in the past that they are not assigned sequentially.”

There are more than 125,000 listings for SSNs starting with 042 here:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

WITHOUT EXCEPTION, the issuing state was CT. Thus, if there’s definitive evidence Obama used an SSN starting with that sequence, that seems highly suspicious. Is there any reason to doubt the claims this number appears on various official records attributable to Obama?


50 posted on 03/18/2011 3:56:39 PM PDT by DrC
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To: safetysign; All

A possible reason for the a CT number....

http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf

Inspector General report on....

Birth Certificate Fraud

Document page number 16 (pdf page 22):

“With the exception of one State (Connecticut), primary vital records registrars responding to our survey say their offices match death and birth registrations and that they send information regarding deaths occurring in their State to the States in which the deceased individuals were born.”

So Connecticut is the ONLY state that does not cross verify with other states up on deaths to close our records.


51 posted on 03/18/2011 4:49:40 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: safetysign
For the upteenth time, whether it's his long form, SS, school records, childhood and adult associatios:

What is he Hiding and Why?

Sealing all his records on the first day of office tells every American what? You are either brain dead, don't have a pulse or an Obot if this doesn't concern you. C'mon lefties, think about it! . . Or is everything a talking point, spin and blind obedience to the one. . If your spouse hid everything about his/her past, would that be okay with you? . I didn't think so. . And this guy is the CEO and CIC of our country! Does that bother you in the least?

Who is he? I don't know, do you?

Okay, done for now but please for a fleeting moment think about it. Okay?

52 posted on 03/18/2011 5:04:54 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: bluecat6

“With the exception of one State (Connecticut), primary vital records registrars responding to our survey say their offices match death and birth registrations and that they send information regarding deaths occurring in their State to the States in which the deceased individuals were born.”

That’s very interesting.

Have his tax records been released? Don’t we have tax records of other presidents? I remember seeing information on the Clinton’s, Al Gore and others. I remember Hillary supposedly took tax deductions on old clothes and such and Al Gore supposedly did not give very much to charity. What SS number is on his tax record? Who gets to see his tax records?


53 posted on 03/18/2011 5:12:08 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: DrC

I think the point is that in 1977 when it seems this SS# was issued, and thru to today, anyone eligible for an SS# can apply to any SSA office s/he chooses. It may not seem logical for a teenager living in HI to apply through a CT office, but it’s not illegal. Applying for multiple SS#’s is illegal, if that was, in fact, done.


54 posted on 03/18/2011 6:00:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: DrC

I am not doubting at all that it’s his. I don’t think anyone is.


55 posted on 03/18/2011 7:08:04 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Art in Idaho
What is he Hiding and Why?

It seems to be working well. Why shouldn't he?

If I could get my opponents to focus on some side issue that made them look like kooks in the eyes of independents and kept them from examining other things, I'd consider myself lucky and keep them going on it.

56 posted on 03/18/2011 7:12:45 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Yes. It was assigned while he was a minor in Indonesia, via an ARO, wasn’t it? I think he wasn’t in the US at that time.

You need better information if you want attempt to discredit facts.

In 1976-1977, Barry was in high school in Hawai'i.

57 posted on 03/18/2011 9:46:14 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: Gondring
What is he Hiding and Why?

If I could get my opponents to focus on some side issue that made them look like kooks in the eyes of independents and kept them from examining other things, I'd consider myself lucky and keep them going on it.

If independents think Obama's eligibility and all his bonafides are kooky, I say fine, so be it. There are lots of other issues that deserve your research before you vote on November 6, 2012.

First, I would implore them to at look at the volumes of data on Obama Here. (Check all The Obama Files on the right at Trevor Loudon's NewZeal blog.)

I would then ask them to go Here. (Fellow FReeper Beckwith's The Obama File)

Then on to Here. (David Horowitz's Discover the Networks - Obama) and finally to:

Here (Commieblaster - Obama).

If after carefully reviewing each article listed, an Independent or, God forbid, a Democrat (Bless their heart) would still vote for Obama in 2012, then I go back to my original premise: They're either brain dead, don't have a pulse, or are hopeless Obots - or refused to do the research. There are no other options. . .

58 posted on 03/18/2011 10:16:15 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Gondring
Trouble is, I actually went to 5315 Gorniak Drive in Parlin, NJ, for example (one of the places Orly Taitz claimed President Obama listed as an address), and guess what...there are people named Obama who aren't the same one as the guy in the big White House.

Congratulations! You eliminated one of the SSN's! At least you claim to have done so. You've made the same claim before but never provided any documentation, and never specified how many places you actually visited. And the list I have doesn't include any addresses in Parlin, NJ. Where did you get that address?

Hmm ... it looks like the guy you visited moved recently:

Did you visit this one?

Name – OBAMA, BARACK
Street Address – 713 HART SENATE
City, State, Zip – WASHINGTON DC 20510-0001
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 282-80-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Apr 08 – Nov 08

Or how about visiting the guy who lives at this address? Oh, nobody lives there, it's an office building. Appears to be some attorney's office:

Name – OBAMA, BARACK H
Gender – Male
Street Address – 180 N LA SALLE ST APT 2200N
City, State, Zip – CHICAGO IL 60601-2501
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 042-68-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Feb 07 – Jun 07

This next one is interesting. Pennsylvania Ave in Washington:

Name – OBAMA, BARACK
Street Address – 111 PENNSYLVANIA AVE
City, State, Zip – WASHINGTON UT 84780
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 799-89-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Jul 07 – Feb 08
Oops! Washington, Utah! There actually is a town of Washington in Utah, but there isn't an Pennsylvania Ave there.

This one is a lot like the previous one, also verified during the presidential campaign:

Name – OBAMA, BARACK
Street Address – 123 WHITE HOUSE
City, State, Zip – IRVINE CA 92618
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security -
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Feb 08 – Jun 08
Hmm, no SSN on that one, eh? Well how about this one then:
Name – OBAMA, BRACK
Street Address – WHITE HOUSE
City, State, Zip – BALTIMORE MD 21454
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 410-67-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Nov 08 – Dec 08
That one was also verified during the presidential campaign.

And other entries also have a dead fish smell to them. Can I be absolutely certain these all belong to the same guy who currently calls the White House home? No, but I would definitely put these in the category of "things that make you go hmmmm."

59 posted on 03/18/2011 10:35:36 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail; Gondring
Oh, by the way, that office building in Chicago?

Hmm, why does the name of that firm sound familiar...
Maybe because of this:

Tthe Obamas had their taxes done by Wineberg, Solheim, Howell & Shain, a Chicago accounting firm. Harvey Wineberg, the first of the principals in the firm's name, donated the maximum $4,300 (under Federal Election Commission contribution limits) to President Obama's '08 campaign. Michael Solheim donated $3,800.

60 posted on 03/18/2011 10:56:48 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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