Posted on 03/06/2011 7:20:28 PM PST by GlockThe Vote
Guys, I have been keeping a collection of articles and items clearly showing how Obama is intentionally trying to collapse the nation. Consider this a clearing house for all things you need to convince fence sitters of just how bad this horrific admn is.
I keep them all here and detail via youtube clips, articles, etc, step by step how this horrible admn is destroying the nation.
I update it daily so that come 2012 - we all have a resource to send to family and friends on the fence about who to vote for in 2012.
Enjoy.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346454.0
Fair enough. Then what orderly process are you going to employ to remove Obama, or is it your point that there is no orderly process available to us?
>Someone send this link to michael moore:
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>www.usdebtclock.org
If only we could get him to *sit* on the national debt...
Let me clarify my position. I do indeed wish to live long enough to see some member of the Government class switch sides and start representing the citizens instead of the oligarchy, and initiate impeachment proceedings against Whateverhisnameis.
I just find it both unlikely and legally invalid, because the guy ain't a President in the first place, so he can't be impeached. He can only be identified correctly as an impostor and removed for criminal fraud.
But you know, whatever.
Given the political, emotional, intellectual, and philosophical state of the existing authority hierarchy, I think you just answered your own question.
>The question is; what are they so afraid of that makes them do nothing?
1) There’s the “boogyman” of race riots if anyone touches him.
2) There’s the boogyman of “racism” if anyone acts against him.
3) There’s the boogyman of the media politically “crucifying” anyone who acts against him.
and, probably the *most* important,
4) An investigation into Obama of any depth is likely to turn up the fraud that was perpetrated by Pelosi in particular, and by the 111th Congress (or was it 110th?), in tangent {the exact term slips my mind, it’s when someone knows about a felony yet does nothing about it which is itself a crime} or in conspiracy.
#4 has the potential to utterly eviscerate not just democrats, and not just bureaucrats, but virtually the entire “political elite” class.
You can have the last word in our discussion, and I wish you luck with that “he isn’t President” argument.
Guess I’ll get more AU and AG.
>And yes, obama is intentionally collapsing the nation.<
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And when Obama succeeds we have our congresscritters and SCOTUS to thank for not trying to stop him, much less investigate his eligibility.
Thank you, but luck doesn't really have any effect on an objectively provable situation, even if the proof is only inferential.
Throw him in jail.
I’m all for removing him from office without impeachment if it’s proven he’s fraudulently occupying it, but I’m going to have to follow your lead on that as I don’t see how that’s to be done before 2012 without recourse to it, and I’m not willing to wait around for another couple of years to see what his particular brand of mixed incompetence and malevolence achieves. So get it going and I’ll file in behind you and support your leadership.
Impeachment has been broached in the national media by some fairly heavyweight individuals, the former Speaker of the House, and a serving Congressman from Arizona. And an impeachment hardly legitimizes his right to be in an office subject to impeachment. In response to a very informal straw poll just on here a few weeks ago, about 76% of those who voted wanted to begin impeachment proceedings now. I expect that will only grow, and that it will be something like a snowball, not much to begin with but picking up as it goes along. If our legislators knew our will, and cared about it, we could definitely get him impeached.
So those interested can get working on removing him for fraudulent occupation of the office and let me know what I can do to help you, and I’ll work on the impeachment with anyone interested in that (let me know privately if you want to be on the ping list, for instance).
“doesn’t it make sense that someone in congress would be yelling for his impeachment? “
Someone above enumerated the fears, but we can’t be afraid to do what’s right. If we were, we might as well give up before even starting. The threats were implicit even in the election that put him in office. They might be explicit or implicit in the 2012 election, but they’re the same ones: urban riots, etc. We have to face it down at some point, so let’s take the initiative and choose the time ourselves.
There was just a Congressman from Arizona who talked about this publicly, seemingly seeing who out there would be supportive of this.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2682750/posts
Hopefully you’ll see my post just above this one as well. One thing we can do is let him know we support him - it would then go from one Congressman to another, to another, and so on. If the electorate is for it strongly enough, they’ll do it.
So let’s get it going and be rid of this crypto-communist clown for all but footnotes in future history books.
Let this man know you support the impeachment:
DC Address: The Honorable Trent Franks
United States House of Representatives
2435 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0302
DC Phone: 202-225-4576
DC Fax: 202-225-6328
Email Address: http://franks.house.gov/contacts/new
WWW Homepage: http://franks.house.gov/
You and I know Obama is a disaster, but he who controls the most pixels is right.
Micheal Moore is another fat disgusting leftist that exemplifies what is wrong w this country.
Thank you for this thread, GlockThe Vote!
I like your views OldNewYork, please put me on your ping list.
Here is my view. Those that argue he is not president deny reality, and deprive themselves benefit of the impeachment process. Moreover, there is no non-Congressional process is available to obtain evidence of lack of eligibility that would not also entail a lengthy legal proceeding. As a practical matter, many believe he is the president, including the Secret Service, Congress, our military forces and the USSC. Obviously, enforcement of any non-Congressional action would be problematic.
Impeachment based on eligibility fraud - if it exits - is likely the only means that will lead to removal prior to the end of this term. While some of his actions over the past 2 years may constitute impeachable offenses, such fraud would be the least complicated of them all.
Thus, the first step is to acquire and present credible evidence of the fraud to Congress. Many have argued for over two years that a Congressional subcommittee should be impaneled for such purpose. (See my About page.) If the subcommittee obtains evidence of a non-U.S. birth, it is game over. Obama will resign or be quickly impeached. Who in Congress, other than perhaps the members of the Democratic Socialists of America and supporters of La Raza, would vote to allow a foreigner to serve as president in violation of the Constitution?
The committee during its inquiry would ask the USSC for an opinion on the definition of the term NBC which opinion, if supportive, could be used if there is indeed evidence of a U.S. birth.
Although such an opinion would be enormously helpful for the future, there could be a wrinkle. If there is credible evidence Obama was born in the U.S. but the USSC opines his Kenyan father precludes NBC, there is a valid issue of whether such would be binding on Obama. For two reasons, first, it appears the “experts” have reasonably disagreed about whether NBC includes a two citizen parent requirement. Second, the entire Congress, with its able lawyers and judges, knew or should have known about his father and yet it raised no objection during the Joint Session when obligated to do so. It seems unlikely, therefore, that Obama’s certification he was qualified for the office would be viewed as the intent to mislead as to a material fact.
I do not think Obama would benefit politically if the committee’s work did not lead to impeachment; of course, the Republican leadership might disagree with an ordinary voter’s view and decline to form the committee.
Talk to you later.
Updated with new info:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346454.0
Notice some of the leftists are starting to attack me now?
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