Thank you for this thread, GlockThe Vote!
I like your views OldNewYork, please put me on your ping list.
Here is my view. Those that argue he is not president deny reality, and deprive themselves benefit of the impeachment process. Moreover, there is no non-Congressional process is available to obtain evidence of lack of eligibility that would not also entail a lengthy legal proceeding. As a practical matter, many believe he is the president, including the Secret Service, Congress, our military forces and the USSC. Obviously, enforcement of any non-Congressional action would be problematic.
Impeachment based on eligibility fraud - if it exits - is likely the only means that will lead to removal prior to the end of this term. While some of his actions over the past 2 years may constitute impeachable offenses, such fraud would be the least complicated of them all.
Thus, the first step is to acquire and present credible evidence of the fraud to Congress. Many have argued for over two years that a Congressional subcommittee should be impaneled for such purpose. (See my About page.) If the subcommittee obtains evidence of a non-U.S. birth, it is game over. Obama will resign or be quickly impeached. Who in Congress, other than perhaps the members of the Democratic Socialists of America and supporters of La Raza, would vote to allow a foreigner to serve as president in violation of the Constitution?
The committee during its inquiry would ask the USSC for an opinion on the definition of the term NBC which opinion, if supportive, could be used if there is indeed evidence of a U.S. birth.
Although such an opinion would be enormously helpful for the future, there could be a wrinkle. If there is credible evidence Obama was born in the U.S. but the USSC opines his Kenyan father precludes NBC, there is a valid issue of whether such would be binding on Obama. For two reasons, first, it appears the “experts” have reasonably disagreed about whether NBC includes a two citizen parent requirement. Second, the entire Congress, with its able lawyers and judges, knew or should have known about his father and yet it raised no objection during the Joint Session when obligated to do so. It seems unlikely, therefore, that Obama’s certification he was qualified for the office would be viewed as the intent to mislead as to a material fact.
I do not think Obama would benefit politically if the committee’s work did not lead to impeachment; of course, the Republican leadership might disagree with an ordinary voter’s view and decline to form the committee.
Talk to you later.