600-Year-Old American Indian Historical Account Has Old Norse Words

The Guard- blogspot ^ | 3-15-2007 | Larry Stroud

[blam]

Thanks to FReeper Shamusotoole for this article above.

Tracing The Genes

MitochondrialDNA (mtDNA) haplogroup testing led to the surprising hypothesis that some of the first Americans came from Europe thousands of years ago.

[madison10]

Fascinating! We are ALL related. LOL The Scots-Irish had Viking/Norse ancestors as well.

[vbmoneyspender]

thanks for posting. very interesting

[Huck]

Fascinating. Thanks for the interesting post.

[blam]

"The Scots-Irish had Viking/Norse ancestors as well. "

I am one of those, yDNA R1b and mtDNA 'V'.
I could have been a Viking who went to Ireland and stayed.
My grandmother is related (U5a DNA) to 9,000 year old Cheddar Man

[Rebelbase]

Maybe how the blue eye gene came to be in Native Americans?

[blam]

"Maybe how the blue eye gene came to be in Native Americans?

Mandans?

I've read that Thomas Jefferson ordered Lewis & Clark not to mention one word about light-skinned, blue eyed Indians in their written scouting report to him.
His concern was that some other European power would use that 'hook' to claim those areas that were not yet part of the USA. So....

[Viiksitimali]

Very interesting ! Thanks.

[mikrofon]

Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

Wisconsin must be Algonquin/Old Norse for "land of no wampum"...

[blam]

(Prince) Madoc In America

[GreenHornet]

“Our efforts to decipher the Walam Olum have found a striking correlation of the Walam Olum words to Old Norse phrases

Additional evidence supporting this theory was found in a recently translated Walam Olum text which read, in part, "What's in your wallet?"

[Darksheare]

Wonder how The Orthodoxy in science are taking this?

[east1234]

Maybe they walked west looking for Romans to kill.

[Rebelbase]

There’s record of blue eyed Natives east of the Cherokee regions. The largest tribe in the Piedmont spoke Algonquin. There is some speculation that the failed colony at Roanoke Island provided a blue eyed gene.

[Kenny Bunk]

When the Pilgrims arrived, they were stumpy little fellows topping out at 5'7". Imagine their shock on meeting fair-skinned 6'6" natives! The squaws towered over Miles Standish.

There is no mention of the Injuns chowing down on Lutefisk and washing it down with akvavit, so I am not believing this Norvegian ancestry ting. Could be a ploy to get a casino in Oslo.

[muawiyah]

The Walum Olem has always been of great interest to a small group devoted to finding out who the Europeans behind it might have been.

I didn't know this guy had done an 8 volume piece on it, but he undoubtedly brought in all the related materials he could find.

I have a single volume of a book written by a fellow who knew the writer, and probably Myron Payne ~ and I know that Mr. Cline, a family friend, was probably also in that circle (he worked with Indians in various places to reclaim their cultural heritage/baggage).

The little bit of the material I've ever seen is fairly readable ~ provided you have a guide to American Indian sign language (which shows up in it as well) and some experience with Old West Gothic (including that quaint language used in England before the Normans conquered the place in 1066).

So Frode Th. Omdahl, from Stavanger, the Viking's very jumping off place cracked the code.

I wonder if he also earlier studied American Indian Sign Language and if the pictographs matched those standards for ideographic representations.

BTW, the Walum Olem has been considered made-up BS since it was discovered ~ a genuine fake ~ but yet, it was always pretty obvious that it was trying to convey meaning and information. The imprint of actual language is in there. It's not just an apparent jumble of clan structures and totems.

[aruanan]

Michigan and Milwaukee are two examples from his books. Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

In Old Norse, “midh” means “middle,” or “lying in the middle”: and “sjoe-kum” or “sjoe-kumme” means “sea basin” or “sea reservoir.”

“Lake Michigan lies midway between Lake Huron and Lake Superior, hence the translation would be correct,” Sherwin wrote.

I think this was a bit garbled. It makes more sense to say that Michigan is the land between Lake Huron and Lake Michigan so that the translation of land "lying in the middle" of "sea basins" would be correct.

[Melinda in TN]

Didn’t some of them also have red hair?

[fallingwater]

No proof as of yet any American Indian in my family but my ancestors look like American Indian. All my granddads brothers and sisters had dark skin and dark eyes. My granddad has light skin and blue eyes. He had 12 brothers and sisters. So 1 in 13 ended up with blue eyes light skin in his family. Interesting.....