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1 posted on 03/06/2011 12:45:44 PM PST by blam
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Thanks to FReeper Shamusotoole for this article above.

Tracing The Genes

MitochondrialDNA (mtDNA) haplogroup testing led to the surprising hypothesis that some of the first Americans came from Europe thousands of years ago.

2 posted on 03/06/2011 12:49:35 PM PST by blam
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Fascinating! We are ALL related. LOL The Scots-Irish had Viking/Norse ancestors as well.


3 posted on 03/06/2011 12:50:03 PM PST by madison10
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thanks for posting. very interesting


4 posted on 03/06/2011 1:00:45 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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Fascinating. Thanks for the interesting post.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 1:01:57 PM PST by Huck (Mrs. Palin = Christine O'Donnell)
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Maybe how the blue eye gene came to be in Native Americans?


7 posted on 03/06/2011 1:09:29 PM PST by Rebelbase
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Very interesting ! Thanks.


9 posted on 03/06/2011 1:15:56 PM PST by Viiksitimali
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Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

Wisconsin must be Algonquin/Old Norse for "land of no wampum"...

10 posted on 03/06/2011 1:17:02 PM PST by mikrofon (Norse by Norse-West)
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“Our efforts to decipher the Walam Olum have found a striking correlation of the Walam Olum words to Old Norse phrases

Additional evidence supporting this theory was found in a recently translated Walam Olum text which read, in part, "What's in your wallet?"

12 posted on 03/06/2011 1:17:28 PM PST by GreenHornet
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Wonder how The Orthodoxy in science are taking this?


13 posted on 03/06/2011 1:19:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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Michigan and Milwaukee are two examples from his books. Those are names said to be Algonquin, with Michigan meaning “middle sea basin” and Milwaukee meaning “good, beautiful land.”

In Old Norse, “midh” means “middle,” or “lying in the middle”: and “sjoe-kum” or “sjoe-kumme” means “sea basin” or “sea reservoir.”

“Lake Michigan lies midway between Lake Huron and Lake Superior, hence the translation would be correct,” Sherwin wrote.


I think this was a bit garbled. It makes more sense to say that Michigan is the land between Lake Huron and Lake Michigan so that the translation of land "lying in the middle" of "sea basins" would be correct.
18 posted on 03/06/2011 1:28:39 PM PST by aruanan
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I have to wonder:

If the Norse movement into North America was significant enough to have the effect on language the article indicates it had, why did it not have a more visible effect in other areas, for instance metal working.

The Norse of the time knew how to work metal, so why were the Amerinds still using flint hundreds of years later?


23 posted on 03/06/2011 1:52:54 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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“Two experts on ancient America may have solved not only the mysterious disappearance of Norse from the Western Settlement of Greenland in the 1300s,”

I think the politically incorrect version of why the Norse settlers disappeared was that they were eaten by eskimos.


24 posted on 03/06/2011 1:58:46 PM PST by RFEngineer
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I gasp when thinking about the horrible discrimination these refugees of Global Cooling must have faced. What kind of reparations are due from the Indigenous Peoples? Surely trillions given 600 years of compound interest. If it makes a difference in the life of one child it will all be worth it.


25 posted on 03/06/2011 2:02:02 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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This story would be excellent inspiration for a really strange Halloween costume.
26 posted on 03/06/2011 2:08:18 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (I am one lab accident away from being a super-villian.)
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“‘aa’ is pronounced as something between the ‘a’ in ‘war’ and the ‘o’ in ‘horse.’”

There is no between, the way I pronounce war and horse.


27 posted on 03/06/2011 2:18:33 PM PST by eartrumpet
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Tak altså mange! Udmærket nyheder. Hvad synes i om Wisconsin? Var der hvilken som helst lamaniter? Hvem var den Høj Cumorah folk?


33 posted on 03/06/2011 4:22:51 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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The Norse who settled Iceland had been living in the Hebrides and Ireland before that, at least some of them, and brought along Celtic slave-women to Iceland.

So the Algonquian word "tomahawk" may actually honor its inventor,one Irish-Norseman, Tom O'Hawk.

Seriously, there is no reason that the surviving Norse accounts of the trips to North America must be the whole story--there could have been other voyages and other settlements that were forgotten. But it is a long way from the confirmed Norse settlement at the northern end of Newfoundland to the Great Lakes or other Algonquian areas. (A medieval Norwegian coin turned up in an archaeological dig in Maine--but I don't know if that means some Norse got to Maine, or whether the Indians in Maine got the coin through trade with other tribes.)

39 posted on 03/06/2011 5:39:23 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Interesting, thanks. Anyone found the Templar fleet yet?


41 posted on 03/06/2011 6:26:42 PM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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Wow. Interesting.


45 posted on 03/06/2011 7:23:27 PM PST by csvset
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poing.


49 posted on 03/06/2011 8:09:34 PM PST by Antoninus (Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
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