Posted on 02/22/2011 10:46:07 AM PST by rxsid
To: bushpilot1
“Where are the documents from the Obama attorneys you stated were scanned and would put them online. You claimed to be searching for them on scrib.com..it has been several days.”
Still searching. Patience, grasshopper.
127 posted on Mon Feb 28 2011 05:29:41 by jamese777
He has to be watched at all times, bushpilot. I’ve seen him corrected over and over on numerous propaganda points, and yet he will go right ahead and repost the same false claims in another thread a few days or weeks later. Truth means nothing to him. He’s got a pro-Obama ax to grind [which he disguises under the rubric just stating the ‘facts’] and it doesn’t matter how many times he’s shown to be in error. He just keeps on pushing to see how much misinformation he can get away with spreading.
He’ll no doubt modify his comments after being called on the Fukino/legal issue, but he won’t stop. He’ll just be more cunning and more disingenuous. I wish he’d get the zot. I don’t see the point in allowing someone to post, day after day, either outright lies or else information clearly designed to obfuscate the truth. True Freepers shouldn’t have to spend so much time countering the same old misinformation posted over and over again.
But oh well. You play the hand you’re dealt.
She is an expert in copy&past quotes out of Hawaii and from other political sources and posting them here as a FINO, and on other sites as well to “protect” his usurper friend in the Whit-Hut aka paid enabler!!!
Indeed, Vattel's work was an inspiration for the American Revolution.
Vattel was Celebrated in the colonies, more than a decade prior to the Revolution.
The North Carolina Magazine or Universal Intelligencer 1764 
Clearly, Vattel's legal treatise was held in high regard across the colonies well in advance of not only the penning of the Constitution, but the Deceleration of Independence as well.
Thanks for the link. For some reason I couldn’t get the pic to come up. I’m overdue to update Adobe, so that might be the problem.
I think I have the hang of this now.
this is PS overlay at 50% opaque setting for each image. It is matched up on one set of "birthmark dots" near the 'raised seal'.
This ties the Daily KOS image and Factcheck images together via post-printing imaging (likely a scan of an original somewhere along the way. There are other such mappings of these "birthmarks dots". These "birthmark dots" did not come from the original print process of an actual COLB. This is why these documents are not authentic.
Even if this guy were a paid troll, which I somehow doubt, and no matter what you know about birth certificates, "Natural Born Citizens," Kenya, FMD, strange-scars-on-obama's-head, Article II, Vattel, Puffendorf; et al.etc. the wise guy never fails to make several irrefutable points:
viz (I) Not one (1) Republican in elected office has made an issue of Obama's eligibility. Here you have Cantor proclaiming the SOBPOTUS a "Natural Born Citizen." There you have the partybeast Boehner saying, "...good enough for the governor of Hawaii ... good enough for me,,,,"
(II) Not one (1) court in the land from the high to the low has bothered to hear the case on its merits, except the Indiana Supreme Kangaroos, and they bombed it.
(III)Not one (1) of the Freepers' favorite potential candidates is on board with ineligibility, including St. Sarah of Wasilla.
(IV)Not one (1) big time Right Wing Radio Host has truly made an issue of ineligibility ... in fact ... I have been banned on several for even mentioning it!
We now have covered on this site every known concatenation of the ineligibility scenario. I must say that I have been mightily impressed with the story that has come out and is now known by some (maybe) 20% of the American population that can still read and write on the same day. It is pretty much the same story that we knew in 2006: i.e., the former (under mysterious circumstances) member of the Illinois Bar is not a "Natural Born Citizen," as the concept has been traditionally held. We don't know his actual legal name. Everything in his released official record is either at worst an outright lie, or at best some sort of mightily suspicious "legend" that cannot be proven or disproven. So what? He is the sitting POTUS, and under his rule, the country continues to spiral downhill. A substantial number of Americans has been left twisting in the wind on an issue central to constitutional order in a constitutional republic. That is hardly the fault of jamese777, et al, even if they occasionally appear to take some ghoulish delight in tweaking us on the failures of our efforts to date.
Why vent your spleen on this site, when the question is better put to elected Republicans and the GOP? Copy it from the Bible, "Who shall temper the wind to the shorn lamb?"
Tomorrow, the Supreme Court recalls to conference the petition made in Hollister v Soetoro et al. It is this simple. If the SCOTUS turns this down, or fails to at least remand it to another court for discovery, we are SOL (a legal term) again and we lurch closer to 2012 with a massive issue unresolved.
Pray to God that there 4 just men on that court and that we may begin the restoration of the republic..
In addition to posting some facts, the SP also posts lies, half lies, misinformation, and other propaganda. Anyone who’s ever dealt firsthand with his dishonesty knows the true character and agenda of this SP. Kenny Bunk, he even reposts falsehoods that have been repeatedly shown to be false. Is that really the purpose for which JR established FR?
One more thing, Kenny Bunk. Do you really need a SP to tell you the Republicans aren’t doing their job? I certainly don’t. I, and most conservatives, know it only too well. Conservatives see dereliction of duty as a call to arms, to strengthen the TEA party and (further) clean house in 2012.
The SP uses the same info as an argument that there is nothing amiss with Obama’s Eligibility. What good and/or conservative purpose does that serve? It’s just salt in the wound. It’s also the antithesis of the conservative POV. We don’t look at cowardice and use it as a proof-text. We see it as a problem to be solved, and we roll up our sleeves and get busy solving it.
He (jamese777) has to be watched at all times, bushpilot. I’ve seen him corrected over and over on numerous propaganda points, and yet he will go right ahead and repost the same false claims in another thread a few days or weeks later.
Truth means nothing to him. He’s got a pro-0bama ax to grind [which he disguises under the rubric just stating the ‘facts’] and it doesn’t matter how many times he’s shown to be in error.
He just keeps on pushing to see how much misinformation he can get away with spreading.
He’ll no doubt modify his comments after being called on the Fukino/legal issue, but he won’t stop. He’ll just be more cunning and more disingenuous. I wish he’d get the zot. I don’t see the point in allowing someone to post, day after day, either outright lies or else information clearly designed to obfuscate the truth. True Freepers shouldn’t have to spend so much time countering the same old misinformation posted over and over again.
Alinsky:
RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive."
The point of posting lies is to keep readers confused, and distracted from the main issue; topic dilution.
"Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding/misdirection, it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues.
"This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity.
" If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’
"In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. - It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’"
Once again, you nailed it. How sick is it to excel at being a troll? (HIM not you!)
I think you would find Lucy’s post (316) intriguing. Turns out the SP is even worse than we realized. What a fraud!
The Birth Certificate is Topic dilution and it has worked very well.
Next item: "Natural Born Citizenship:"
If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’
This is where we are now. Our research into the available facts on Obama/Soetoro's provenance has been rather complete. We have put together MORE THAN enough to show cause why this should be in court. We have a legitimate grievance. It has not even been addressed, much less redressed.
It is not in court. If it is not in a court after tomorrow's Supreme Court Conference then we have a problem requiring far sterner measures than debate on this forum.
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